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Fellas of SW, how often do you think about having to physically fight someone?

Last month I had to kick out a homeless guy skulking around my driveway, tense words were exchanged, and almost every day since then I've been anticipating having him come back to try his luck again.

I'm well armed and have a dog that would gladly rip apart my enemies, but I just don't want to deal with the legal consequences of a system that seems to disproportionately protect the criminals. There is the concept of using "reasonable force" to remove or restrain somebody, and since learning of that I've been imagining the different ways I could handle him should he return.

Seems unhealthy to obsess over it, but I also feel like it kinda goes with the territory of being a guy. Seems like you always gotta be ready to put a threat down before it can hurt those that can't protect themselves as well
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Sandcastler · 26-30, M
I understand where you are coming from, I also understand that this could be a frustrating situation for you. However I would like to give a little of my perspective on this, and I think it may disagree with yours quite a lot.

That being said, the reason society and its laws disproportionately protect trespassing homeless people over people in your position I think is relatively simple. One of you is a person at the very bottom of life, with presumably no relatives willing and able to help him, very little money, very poor mental health, possibly quite poor physical health, and who has so few options available to him (at least from his point of view) that he has resorted to trespassing. The other is a person who has a house, internet access, relative financial stability and who is able to protect himself so well that he is bragging about it to strangers online. So one of you desperately needs empathy and protection from society and the other is perfectly fine on his own. This is the reason the system disproportionately protects the homeless man on your driveway: because he is one of society's most vulnerable members. Both of you are deserving of help/protection from the system, but only one of you needs it.

On a more general note, sometimes feeling the urge to be violent towards another person is very natural. I also agree that it is the case that male hormones can make these feelings more prevalent, so it is at least somewhat a gendered phenomenon. The way I deal with feeling the need to physically attack another person (for whatever reason the situation may seem to demand) is by focusing on the other person's perspective and by appealing to their humanity when I interact with them. For example by practicing a little bit of sympathy towards them. In your case I might have asked if the homeless person was okay, if he wanted some water or some spare change or some food etc. After that I would have explained to him that I can't have him staying on my driveway and that I need him to leave. If that had not worked then probably I would call the police or ask neighbours for help etc. If I were a woman or a young teenager then I would not risk that and I would just go straight to calling the police or neighbours. The point is to deal with the situation in a way that no one gets hurt.

I'm a bartender in a city with a fair few homeless people, so I actually deal with this kind of situation quite a lot. Being a little bit kind/warm/sympathetic to people who are intoxicated/agitated or being uncooperative almost always works.

One last thing is that if you are feeling quite affected by this experience (as it seems you are), then this is also very normal. Almost coming to blows with someone you are a little afraid of (and rightly so) is a very intense experience, and so will produce quite an intense emotional response in you. A good way of dealing with this is to talk about the experience, either anonymously online (as you are doing) or with someone you trust: spouse, sibling, parent, etc. This will help you to process the experience and act on your feelings in a rational, responsible way.

Sorry if this came off condescending, that's not how I meant it. Just wanted to give a clear explanation of my perspective. Good luck!
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Sandcastler
Both of you are deserving of help/protection from the system, but only one of you needs it.

How do you know? It could be that the homeless man returns with a knife, a gun, and a gang of other homeless.
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ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
I've been in that same situation before. When I was 20 I found a homeless dude drinking in my driveway & I calmly asked him why he was there. He said he knew my brother (who was 14) so I went & asked my brother & he said he'd never seen him before. Things got heated & I wanted to fight him but I simply made him leave. Never saw him again. Fighting wouldn't have even been worth it honestly because he didn't hurt anyone.. he was just a weirdo.

Another time, I was friends with this guy who was homeless. He came to my house & I let him in because at a time when I was homeless.. he let me in. But after I caught him smoking meth in my living room I got pissed & kicked him out. I felt bad because he had nowhere to go but I was also like "who tf just goes & smokes meth in somebody else's house?"
A week later he was found dead in the alleyway behind my house. Which made me feel a little worse even though I knew I couldn't save the guy anyway.. but I still felt bad for kicking him out. It's complicated.

Long story short, it's better to just let it go. Poor guy has probably been through a lot & he's not in his right mind like he used to be.. but he was once a regular person too
Not very much these days although it's always a consideration in the big city. Shit happens. When I used to frequent the local nightlife it was a constant threat. Violence happened a lot.
@pentagrammom I mean, you're not wrong. Or right 🤔
@UBotMate seems the master is having an issue with no direct contact, and the substitutes don't suffice, weakness exposed for all to process
quesswhat · 70-79, M
@UBotMate she said just because you felt like a man, you lost the fight
Jexie · 26-30, F
Can't you call security?
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Jexie I am the security. Police were called just to make a record of it, but they didn't sound too concerned about apprehending him for trespassing
Call the police. Let them handle it.
Human shutting down the system, no access to reality
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@pentagrammom I can't tell if this is poetry or a really bad AI, but it's gonna be in the back of my mind until I can figure it out
@TinyViolins IT isn't getting out, locked in until expires
quesswhat · 70-79, M
why fight? very uncivilized, that's why they made guns for
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@quesswhat I own guns, but since it's technically outside of my home, it doesn't count as a self-defense scenario. Worst case, I'll catch a homicide charge. Best case, I still get charged for brandishing and assault

 
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