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What do you think of JORDAN PETERSON (I only capitalized that bc I know it will get your attention).

Here are my thoughts on this guy...

1)As a PHD in clinical psychology, most of what I hear him say about his field is insightful
2)A lot of his self help stuff is great, and backed up by data and multiple studies which he cites. Some is just common sense but sounds smarter.
3)He uses academic jargon for no reason, and speaks alegorical, sounding way more complex than the point he's making is. Sometimes this comes off as poetic and cool sounding, and other times it sounds like a pretentious. He uses the term "biblical corpus" and when someone asked "Does that just mean the bible" he basically said yeah. Like, why not just call it the bible then? lmfao.
4)What I seriously like about him is that he connects mythology to biology, using jungian theory to explain profound concepts from various religions and stories in general.
5)I really hate the way he does or doesn't talk about women. As a guy who gives advice to young men (such as myself), I feel like it's rare to ever hear him say anything about the female sex that actually inspires enthusiasm about interacting with them. I think that while some of his evolutionary psychology takes on the dynamics between males and femaels are probably sound, it just seems like fuel for incels, and is the last thing you should have on your mind when talking to women. Like, idk what nerd needs to hear this, but knowing more about the field of evolutionary psychology won't help you get laid lmfao. Getting a cool hobby and hitting the gym more will. Women are not alien beings.
6)I wish he'd stop getting invoved in climate change. He's only had one solid take on it which is that not having kids isn't gonna help and would hurt (which actually is true).
7)He's a classical british liberal, which is gay as fuck.
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Penny · 46-50, F
i think he talks too much lol. hes so wordy its hard to pay attention. if a person cant get their point across simply and quickly then i feel like they just like to hear themselves talk. definitely seems a little pretentious. he could have good points or opinions but ive never been able to sift any out of all that talking. im more of a reader than a listener to be fair though. i have a limited attention span to hearing people go on.
@Penny Yeah, I agree. Like, sometimes he makes really simple points in insanely complex ways.
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ViciDraco · 41-45, M
I think he knows his field and then fallaciously appeals to that knowledge to make unsupported logical leaps in other domains that sound good at first but don't really hold up to reality.
@SatanBurger It's a hell of a gamble to say that it's okay that we are facing an economic crisis, but it's okay cause AI will autmate us out of our jobs, which is also ok cause we can fix it with an economic proposal that has never been empirically implemented before. I actually DO think UBI sounds awesome. I think we should experiment with it now. Not something we should gamble with the fate of humanity with tho.

And if I haven't said it enough, AI might not automate us out our jobs. Projections for the development of technology are FAR from perfect. And more importantly than any of this, Gen Z faces a loneliness crisis. It's hard to find people your own age without making an effort to, and that's seriously fucked up. Youngsters should be able to literally take a walk and meet friendly ppl their age.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@BRUUH Gen Z loneliness problem isn't about number of peers. It's about the social media disconnect. Millennials have been facing that issue as well and are considered a somewhat large demographic (not as big as baby boom, but bigger than gen x).

Another big factor is that people move away from there hometowns to pursue jobs. So all of the friends they made growing up scatter and drift apart because nobody is close anymore. My father's generation have largely rebounded back home and know a lot of people they went to school with there. My graduating class as an older millennial is all over the place. And Gen Z is seeing that happen even more, especially after the covid work from home migrations that happened.
@ViciDraco There are more millenials than gen x NOW, but that's cause many boomers have died. Most people are close to the people they'v met in their younger years.

It absolutely has to do with numbers, and I don't know how or why you don't see that or don't want to (maybe you hate humans and want there to be less of us?) In Palestine, there are more kids than any group; birth rates are high. young people in palestine can't go outside without meeting someone their age. In America, a gen z person goes to the gas station, and may or may not (probably not) see someone their age .A world where every time you order a happy meal you see three people your age is obviously going to be a less lonely world. I'm not saying video games and social media don't play a factor, they do, but when it OBVIOUSLY wouldn't if there were more ppl offline than online.
BohoBabe · M
He's one of the few righty pundits I actually feel bad for. I don't think he's a grifter, his brain actually is soup. Same goes for Mike Pillow.
@BohoBabe Nazis were right about a ton of the things they said. They were right about the corrosive influence of marxism, just wrong to place it at the feet of Jews. They were probably right about the unethical banking schemes going on too, but again wrong to place it at the feet of jews. I literally have no problem saying that I agree with Nazis or Hitler when I do.
BohoBabe · M
@BRUUH
That said, does Peterson even use the term "cultural marxism"? I only ever heard him say "postmodern neo-marxists".

He's used both terms, sometimes he just says "Marxists," but he always uses these terms in the context of the conspiracy theory. He'll talk about drag queen story hour, and say that's Marxism because he doesn't actually know what Marxism is, he thinks it's just this conspiracy theory where shadowy figures are trying to trans the kids.
Just the fact that he says "Postmodern Neo-Marxists" tells us he doesn't know what these terms mean. Postmodernism was a rejection of Marxism.

Do you think that the influence of ideas like postmodernism, intersectionality, and critical theory, decontructionism, etc have impacted the culture? Cause if so, you are basically a cultural marxist conspiracy theorist, no?

No, because I don't think the influence of these ideas was part of a plot to take over Russia or Germany or America or the West or whatever the current version of the conspiracy theory is. The reason sociologists and economists adopted so much of Marx's ideas is because a lot of them were proven correct. Not because Marxists infiltrated universities and made everyone gay.
I also actually understand these ideas. Like I said, Marxism and Postmodernism are practically polar opposites. And just because professors are influenced by Marx doesn't mean they are Marxists. I'm not a Marxist, but I agree Marx was right about a ton of things. Whereas the conspiracy theory says all of our colleges are now run by actual Marxists.

Nazis were right about a ton of the things they said. They were right about the corrosive influence of marxism

The Nazis were either lying or didn't understand Marxism. Gender nonconformity, which is basically what Nazis mean when they talk about "degeneracy," isn't part of Marxism. The reason the Nazis put the two together in their propaganda is because Marx was a Jew, Marxism was on the rise, and this fit in well with earlier conspiracy theories about the Jews spreading degeneracy in Europe.
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DDonde · 31-35, M
He had some interesting ideas to me when I first saw his lectures on youtube before he got big. Things I hadn't heard before that really resonated with me at the time with respect to how we do therapy for men. I think popularity kind of got to his head though and he's kind of gone off the deep end for me. I don't know why he's involved with politics at all.

 
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