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smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
I don't think he needs counseling for just missing his mother. He will get over it before long
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@smileylovesgaming he's 7 and his mother walked out of his life without even saying goodbye to him. He's confused and doesn't understand why she did this. He is struggling with this and I can't fix it so no I don't think he'll just get over it! But thank you for caring enough to comment
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
@Cigarguy101 sending him to counseling every week can be just as damaging. He isn't moving on with his life. I would spend more time with him. I think he would rather play basket ball or baseball with his dad then talking about the same pain over and over for weeks at a time
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@smileylovesgaming how much time do you think he's there?

And I spend as much time as possible with him. I am an open book on here go look at my posts.

And honestly I don't need to prove anything to you.
Or defend why I think it's important for him to go.

Onryo · 22-25, F
I don’t understand how insurance can dictate healthcare, it seems criminal to me. As someone who didn’t have the therapy when I was his age and is massively fucked up now and in intensive therapy I would say don’t give up. You know your child. My psychiatrist has said that I have permanent damage to my brain because the level of trauma I experienced at a young age and then not getting the right support at the time has meant that my brain has not developed properly. My social and emotional development is impaired and will never be recovered. At the age of 7 I got a lot of praise for being brave and for getting on, in my head that became the message that crying and not just getting on would be bad! I bottled so much up for so long and it destroyed me. In my 20s and still massively struggling with abandonment and attachment issues. I hope your son gets the support he needs.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@Onryo I didn't get the help, treatment or therapy I needed as a child or young adult. And I'm struggling now. I am getting the help but like you said the damage was already been done. I will not let that happen with my son! I'm calling my insurance company today to get answers. I'm going to talk to my therapist and see what he suggest I do to fix this. Like I said I will find him a new counselor and pay out of pocket if I need to.
4meAndyou · F
I used to work for a health insurance company, and I am so horribly sad to tell you that unless your son has a diagnosis that justifies the visits, the doctor is correct.

That doesn't mean it is right, or fair.

One thing you COULD try is to pay for the visits out of pocket in order to continue them. If you pay the doctor in cash, he will usually give you a considerable discount.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@4meAndyou he does he's ADHD but he's not on medication for it right now.
4meAndyou · F
@Cigarguy101 Health insurance companies think this way: Not medicated, no more problem.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
There is an insurance cap. You’re just shooting the messenger because you love your son. The insurance will bend, but you’ll need a diagnosis. They’ll allow more visits that way.

There’s also online therapy. Have you checked that avenue?
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@Adogslife trust me I'm going to call my insurance company tomorrow. He has ADHD but as of right now we don't have I'm on any medications. I don't think he needs it. But I guess because he's not his appointments are coded or billed differently. I'll pay out of pocket if I have too.

I don't think he'd do well with a online appointment. He doesn't sit still long. So in person is better for him. I'm going to talk to my therapist tomorrow as well. See if he has any suggestions on what we can do.
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Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@Muthafukajones where did I say they don't deserve to be paid. It's July according to him they won't renew until January. I'm just supposed to wait 6 months before getting him help. I said more than once id pay out of pocket.
kodiac · 22-25, M
In any case i'd dump that counselor,obviously he only cares about the money . He could try to help you ,like ok then can't the counselor make a diagnosis? I mean if he can decide he doesn't need more time he should be able to convince the insurance that he does .
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@kodiac that is the other thing I'm confused about and it doesn't take much. I'm not a smart person. But he said he reported that my boy was doing fine but he had also reached the limit of appointments for this year. It's only July. I'm going to dig deeper into this tomorrow and figure something out. I'll find a new counselor for him and pay out of pocket if I have to.
I hope you’ll continue doing what you’ve been doing, being a terrific father and trusting your instincts. I know I didn’t need to chime in here but a couple of “helpers” really got on my nerves with their crappy advice.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@OlderSometimesWiser trust me I will keep it going even if I have to pay out of pocket.
ArtieKat · M
If your son has built up a rapport with this counsellor then finding a new one is not going to help in the short-term.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@ArtieKat but if he refuses to see him even if I pay out of pocket I don't have much of a choice.
ArtieKat · M
@Cigarguy101 Or else you accept that he, as a trained professional, has assessed that your son no longer needs counselling and should just get on with his life. I accept that he's going to miss his mother but that's human nature. Nobody can "fix" that in my opinion.

I'm sorry because I know this isn't what you want to hear.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@ArtieKat I know it's not the answer I want because one he's almost 7 and two he's still struggling. He still gets sad, confused or mad at times. I'm curious how you think a 7 year old should just get in with his life. She walked out on us with out a saying anything. He never got to know why, he still struggles with this because he can't get closer. I find it interesting that no one says anything about my daughter being in counseling but I'm criticized for wanting to help my boy.
YoMomma ·
That’s cause he only cares about the insurance money he probably wasn't even helping him 😒
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@YoMomma like I said above I might look into a different counselor and paying out a pocket if I have to
Musicman · 61-69, M
How much is it if you pay it out of pocket? Maybe you could do once a month. 🤷‍♂
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@Musicman yeah I'm definitely going to look into that may not stick with the same counselor though I kind of feel like he might have tried to fight for my boy a little bit more he does have a diagnosis he is ADHD he's just not treated with medication right now. And the cost doesn't really matter if my boy needs it I'm going to get it done and find a way
Musicman · 61-69, M
@Cigarguy101 From the way he handled everything it sounds like he doesn't really care about you or your son. He never even offered you options.
Cigarguy101 · 41-45, M
@Musicman I think you're right. I'll get something figured out though.

 
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