It's sad that I have to delete a post about the love a child brings because people are so offended by it 🙄

@ChiefJustWalks YES. The world needs us all just as we are. Parenting is no joke so I support people making responsible decisions 100%.

In the post I said there was no shame either way, I always try to be inclusive and fair because i appreciate people's individuality and right to choose. It's none of my business, but I did want to say how my son has shown me love I never knew existed.

Lol people sometimes want to argue when you agree 😂 and I'm just not gonna be spoken to like I'm one of the ignorant ones. I care and support, I don't tear down, unless they're trying to tear others down.

It's the internet though lol

Thank you for understanding and I know you know what I mean when I say our kids bring a joy only kids can bring. And that there's hope for the future because of kids. You're a good dad and I'm so happy you did have a child because I trust you're putting a good person out into the world.

@ScreamingFox I definitely get what you mean about your son showing you love that you never knew existed. I've loved people before & I've always loved my family but nothing overwhelms you quite as much as the love of your kid. She'll probably always be the best thing that ever happened to me. & I agree when you say there's hope for the future because of kids. I know a lot of people say they don't wanna bring kids into this messed up world & I understand that. It makes us think stuff like "what if life just sucks & now my kid has to go through this shit too". But maybe our view on the world shapes a lot of their views on it too. If we think that way, they might too. I honestly don't even think about the rest of the world when I'm with my kid. & Thank you btw 🤗

@Punches I have heard people say they regret not having kids. I try not to be like "well you could still have them" because I know there's always reasons & I don't think it's all so bad that they didn't have kids. I understand why people get mixed feelings about it though & have those thoughts later because like you, I probably would too. I never felt ready to have kids so I definitely wasn't trying to but I did always know that I wanted a kid or two someday. I've known that since I was 5 because I used to say wanted to work on cars & have kids when I grow up 😂

@ScreamingFox People, especially people online read us the way we word our sentences. And not everyone follows us and reads all of our posts, or know us well enough to know what our beliefs are.

And the wording used is one consistent to the actions of patriarchal society and shaming childless women in particular. I get to live this shaming daily, especially where I am located.

It's sort of similar to what I'm experiencing with vegetarianism here. Whenever I have to sit on a table with people that don't know I'm vegetarian (because I don't go on and make ads about it) they question me immediately why why and they are hostile with me right from the start. 90% people are like that here. (here in my country).

Long story short, you can say and word whatever you'd like and however you'd like, and I am only sharing my experience and how I personally read the post. And I said I didn't like the wording, that's it. Because I hear that exact wording and shaming all the time, in every shape and form.
Society tells me to get married and have children and I'm none of that. Constantly. People feel sorry for me, dismissing my personal choices because I'm not married, and am single at 35, they tell me I'm selfish because I don't ever want to have children, or they try and convince me that I'll change my mind about it etc etc.

I personally don't believe you were at any point doing a propaganda or whatever, and particularly because I hold you higher in respect than most people here, I let you know how I feel about it.

In your post you said people can do whatever they want, but they will never understand how is it to have a child and love it and how much it saved you.

That's exactly what is being said to women that decide to not have children (regardless if they can or can't biologically too) implying we're deprived of something so wonderful that did so much for them/you. Implying that we have less than women with children. When it's just not the case.
I find my reason to live and fulfillment in other areas and give all of my love to my family, my sister, my nieces, my pets, my close friends and me.

My point is, women are and can be more than mothers, and not all value to a woman is tied to her ability to bring life (which is pretty awesome imo), but it's what we've been fed and trained for from babies.
And the post, to me, felt a bit dismissive of the diverse experiences and identities that women can embody beyond motherhood.

So I wanted to share.

@greensnacks I was explaining my experience while also honoring people who choose not to have kids. So I wouldn't offend anyone. Other people understood what I meant. I think you read something wrong tbh because you're lecturing me like I don't already accept people making their own choices 🤷🏼‍♀ I'm not going to argue with you over the same point. You're being accusatory and I'm done with it.

@ScreamingFox That's a shame you got that from my reply. Thank you anyway.

@SwampFlower yes it's a big commitment and responsibility that you devote your life to selflessly... If you want to do it right anyway lol

That's why I don't blame people for not wanting kids. It's a choice that I know some people make for the wrong reasons too.

But like you said, it's not a reason to give up on the human race. I'm not cruel because I had a child. Besides, eleven years ago the planet didn't suck THIS bad. There was still hope. And I'm not letting go of that hope. I'm always the one playing with the kids and animals. If you treat kids like humans, they act like humans. Even the "bad" kids will behave if you don't act like they're dirt.

There's lots of ways to break the cycles, but treating children like squat is perpetuating the cycle.

@ScreamingFox You’re a good mother. And I can see you being a mother figure to all kids, which is what a real mother does. 🫂

@SwampFlower a lot of kids know what's up. They're having fun without drugs and alcohol 😂

Thank you. I know you're an amazing earth mama too. Everyone who has you in their life is better for it.

@WaryWitchWandering Children are the future of humanity, they live what see and believe what they hear. God bless every person thats willing to take the time to invest in a child, the growth works both ways. You find yourself doing what you thought you would ever do for anyone without even thinking twice. Zero shame in loving the process of raising a child, only the closed minded or deeply hurt people would ever refute this. The only thing just as special is a Mom.

@bijouxbroussard I think sometimes people hear/read into things with whatever wound they are dealing with. Then there's the comments about, how could you bring a child into a world like this...

I never insulted anyone lol I was talking about free choice but that I was happy with mine. That I never would of known love I like know if not for my kid. It was supposed to be positive and people did see it that way, I just can't deal with people trying to lecture me and shame me for things I'm not saying or feeling. To me I'll just take the post down so I don't have to keep defending my choice, either way, it's people's choice.

@ScreamingFox You’re definitely right about people reading things that are unwritten, hearing things unsaid and ascribing their own personal hurts to an innocent conversation. 🥺

I often post about about my family here and recently a poster, someone who had never spoken to me or commented on my posts announced to someone else that I was "jealous" of my sister and had disappointed my parents (?)

It couldn’t have been further from truth—but it made me wonder about their family dynamic. 🤔

@ScreamingFox honestly my kids are the only reason I'm still here. They need me and they are the reason why I get up every morning. Everything I do is for them.

I didn't see your post you had to delete but you shouldn't have to do that.

@Cigarguy101 I know the feeling. They're little heros by simply existing.

@Lostpoet I don't know wtf people are thinking at all

@ScreamingFox Black and white thinking, only one side can be at fault for the world's problems and it has to be the other one.