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Worries about my daughter

The news here has been a near constant barrage of stories about rich men in the entertainment industry and how they treat young women.

My daughter's ambition is to be a dancer. Earlier this year she was offered a chance to dance in a local panto but my ex was vehemently against it. At the time I was angry about his attitude. But in an exchange about planning for the kids over Christmas he said outright that he's worried about her entering that world. And i can't deny I am too. She'll be 15 in the new year. Seems weird but stopping her doing something like that at 14 seems ok but at 15 or 16 seems more a restriction on her freedom to me.

Then last night while we chatted about our favourite baking show and were being sad about our favourite contestant leaving she suddenly says her friend has been approached by a man at rehearsals for the panto we stopped her doing. I couldn't do nothing so I've spoken with the girl's mum this morning. She knew about it and is going to pull her daughter out of the panto.

I feel so anxious about all this. You can't trust almost anything it feels like.
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FlowersCelestialPhd · 26-30, M
That takes honest conversation a heart to heart. Some informed decision making give her information to safe guard herself all the information for her to make a safe decision that is age appropriate. Let her have a communication system of she feels pressured or not comfortable e.g. Bring a cellphone to call in case if emergency. Help her recognize signs of any predatory behavior so she could identify it. Have you and another safe adult as a first point of contact. Do you use any family apps?
DearAmbellina2113 · 46-50, F
I understand. My roommate has a 13 yr old daughter who is quite successful in gymnastics, and he really struggles with the mandatory uniform she is required to wear at performances. It's a sick, unfortunate part of life that young girls are so s*xualized. 😞
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Any UK organisation involved with under 18s should ensure that all their adult workers and volunteers have a Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) certificate. It's not foolproof, but it shows serious intent by the responsible adults to ensure safety. Anyone refusing to get one should not be allowed to be unsupervised with children.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@KatyO83 You don't get 'cleared' on a DBS. It informs the employer of any convictions. The best you get is 'None Recorded'.

It is certainly limited, but it is better than nothing and if I were running a drama group, I want one to reassure parents.
KatyO83 · 41-45, F
@FreddieUK but it doesn't provide any reassurance because any of those with 'None recorded.' will be potentially the abuser. That's my point
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@KatyO83 ANYONE is a potential abuser. Hence the need for all the safeguarding training available and the DBS check is part of the suite of safeguards that any organisation working with children or vulnerable adults needs to have. I accept that on its own the DBS check is insufficient.
Uncfred · 70-79, M
What Are men (in general) doing to the world? Are we all predators or is it just a few?

Whatever we men are the female gender are suffering through it, my son at 15 did his own thing but my granddaughter (also 15) has to be careful every way she turns. Wars, predators, groomers, and those of us who care suffer too.
Lets hope things change while they can.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
Having a child enter this world has to be concerning as there are far too many undesirable people attached to the profession. You decisions are good!
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
Having been involved in childcare for as long as i have, it never ceases to amaze me lengths and depths of human depravity and the specific lengths certain people create to perpetrate this stuff.

You'd think chaperoning youngsters would be the bare minimum 'safe' adults involved with productions could do.

But listening to some of these women tell their stories it's clear many need saving from themselves having deliberately put themselves in harms way believing that 'stardom' awaits if they can just put up with it.
AngelaR80 · 46-50, F
@Picklebobble2 you cannot victim blame here that's part of the problem!
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
@AngelaR80 not about 'victim blaming' it's about trying to find a practical solution so that women might have an equal opportunity in a world that's currently screaming 'Whatever you do, don't !'
AngelaR80 · 46-50, F
@Picklebobble2 I'm referring more to your first comment

But listening to some of these women tell their stories it's clear many need saving from themselves having deliberately put themselves in harms way believing that 'stardom' awaits if they can just put up with it.

That's the definition of victim blaming
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
What has been coming out in the news recently is about powerful men, deference to authority, and cultural attitudes in a previous generation. It is not peculiar to the entertainment industry alone and it would be sad if this is preventing your daughter from participating in a local production.

I'd hope that a local panto had done appropriate vetting and risk assessment for any adults working with children. That said, if the man was behaving inappropriately, this needs to be called out and reported.
AngelaR80 · 46-50, F
@SunshineGirl he is a relative of the director. Hence the issues.
That's sad but probably extremely true, hard to protect young women in the entertainment business 😞
Spectre128 · 51-55, M
Such a shame and is restricting the hobbies she can access. Sadly all girls need to be taught what to watch out for, what is inappropriate, and how to deal with it.
notsure · 56-60, M
That is awful not to mention disgusting its a good job you are vigilant.
Convivial · 26-30, F
You can't always be there for them as hard as you might try.... Education and the danger signs...
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
That's unbelievably sad.
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
I may be out of the times but what’s a panto?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Prison1203 Pantomime, to give it its full name, is a particularly British form of family entertainment performed around Christmas time. It is very popular both in its amateur and professional form. Usually based on a well known children's story it involves music, comedy, audience participation and a love story. The Principal Boy is played by a young woman, the 'Dame' is played by a man and it has nothing to do with 'trans'. Panto goes back a very long time in British theatre. You are not 'out of the times' just on the wrong continent. 🙂

 
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