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Family sadness

I just need to write this off my mind…

My parents have always had a toxic relationship.
They broke up several times and even got a divorce about 8 years ago around the same time I got married.

Yet they always end up back together.
I genuinely can’t understand. My mom can be mentally abusive and my dad physically abuses her in return after he drank too much. It’s a sorry excuse though and he drinks every day. He is addicted to it but because he continues to work and found a job where he can easily do this as long as his sales numbers are on track, it has never become a real “problem” aside for my mother and me.
His brother does the same and has been in jail for hitting his girlfriend before. When that happened, my grandparents supported him as if she exagerrated the whole story. I kept my opinions to myself, but I’ve seen this close hand with my own father.
While everyone was crying about this, I would have hoped it would wake my uncle up.
He seemed very calm when they released him.

Wednesday I had a shitty day at work and I called my dad to talk about my son’s birthday arrangements yesterday. I could hear he had been drinking a lot cause I recognize it beyond a doubt.
There is an old lingering and ever present fear for my mom’s safety when he is like this… yet I probably do what people do. Think the best of it, that I’m just imagining it, that he’s changed since I left home 15 years ago, that he seemed to have changed after they got back together about 5 years ago.

Yet yesterday when I went to my parents to celebrate my son’s 6th birthday, I saw my mom her underarm entirely bruised by coincidence when she lifted her arm up to grab plates for dinner.
They always use the plates I’ve given them because she likes them and yet, it were other ones.
I’ve become very perceptive in these matters so I knew something was up.

I waited until we were alone doing the dishes and I asked her what happened.
I wondered if she would tell me the truth this time or if she would lie about it as usual.

To my surprise, she told me the truth. And she was bruised all over her body. My father had clenched her throat again too whereas she has a permanent issue with her neck already.

What’s even worse is that my uncle and a friend of my father were present when it happened this time.
Although the friend left after he said I do not approve of this… my uncle did nothing to intervene.

My uncle went through some shitty stuff too. His true love died of illness and from what I know he never mistreated her. But I hate him. He never thinks about anyone but himsel and he has no real respect for women. I am very sure he did mistreat the woman he was sent to jail for. Towards me he always seeks contact and reaches out when he’s going through a rough time, but I just can’t let him in. Not more than a friendly hello how are you anyway…

I keep on asking my mother why she chooses to stay… I can’t understand.
My mom says she would lose the house she spent her entire life working for and she just doesn’t want to give that up. That it’s also my inheritance.
Although I get she doesn’t want to lose her property, I don’t get why she would sacrifice her wellbeing for it. It’s not like she has no places to go.

I feel very conflicted about this today.
As usual my husband is of no support when I need him to be. He’s in Helsinki for his training for the company and it’s important for his career. When I told him what happened yesterday over the phone, he said there’s not much I can do about it (which is true…) and then he had to hop on the taxi and told me he’d call me back. When he did he talked about other things right away again.
Meanwhile it’s just another thing I need to process myself. While having an ongoing migraine and while taking care of our son.

I guess I was naieve for thinking things sometimes change for the better.
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Renkon · M
Find her a good lawyer .... someone experienced in domestic violence cases. This is serious, and she needs proper legal help.

Also, how is she losing her home? That doesn’t sound right. She should check her rights .... especially if the house is jointly owned or she has been living there for a long time.

The most important step is to ensure her safety. A restraining order can help with that. It may feel harsh, especially to your dad, but this isn’t about hurting anyone .... it’s about protecting her.

I once told a friend the same thing. She filed a restraining order the day her husband hit her. She’s now safe, divorced, and in a much healthier relationship. It’s not easy, but peace and safety come first.
kimmy159 · F
@Renkon the thing is that we did all of that already. In the end she still went back several times.
They bought the house together so yes half of it is hers but she just doesn’t want to sell it and feel like she lost her home. She knows my dad will not give it up and just buy it himself.
Honestly it’s not like it’s a villa so even I don’t understand it.
I told her she can come live with me, she had her own rented appartment before as well last time she broke up with my dad and was away for 2 years. So I really don’t get it either. She could leave at any time, she just won’t and it has always driven me insane too causing quite some anxiety.
Renkon · M
@kimmy159 Maybe she’s scared of being alone forever. Sometimes, that fear makes people stay in familiar but harmful situations.

From what I understand, you are the only support she has. One thing you can do is invite her to stay with you for a few days. Just let her feel she’s not alone. That small step might give her the strength to make a bigger change.
Achelois · F
I’m sorry that’s a lot for you to deal with.

she stays out of fear, probably emotionally exhausted, it’s easier to stay than leave them, which won’t make sense to anyone looking in, she’ll make excuses for them, he probably has a nice side, so she’ll always feel torn between the abuse and when he ok, this can make you believe they aren’t as bad as you think, it becomes normal, it isn’t normal but that’s her normal.
She’s probably given up the fight for herself, abusive men make you feel weak, it takes strength to leave them. 😞🫂
Pretzel · 70-79, M
it sounds as though they consider it "normal" and all you can do is keep yourself and your family safe. You can explain to your son when you think he's ready that how your parents live is there business but it isn't acceptable in your house.

What a sad life. Sorry this is your situation to live with.
YoMomma ·
My mom and dad had a horribly toxic relationship but he never hit her ever nor does he drink ever but they argued like hell.. i used to run away.. i know it’s hard to understand why a person stays with an abuser but it’s complicated.. i wish there was more done to rectify the abusers behavior to understand what they are doing isn't ok because obviously they think it is and a lot of the time the woman is financially dependent on the dude and it keeps her from leaving or reporting him because it’s detrimental to her to lose him and also some maybe love the guy too and enjoy his company (when he’s not being abusive) so the shit continues maybe they also hold out hope that it will stop idk but old habits die hard
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
Geeee...so sorry for what you are going through. I'm sure it's tough to get through a day just having this stuff on your mind.
It's sad how the behavior of some men can be toward their spouses. I'll never understand that.
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@kimmy159 Correct.

I think you should

• hope for the best,
• prepare for the worst.

Keep hoping he'll change, but don't expect it. That way, your expectations are always met.
kimmy159 · F
@SomeMichGuy I think that’s indeed what I’ve been doing, but I found that a certain lingering anxiety came from that preparing for the worst but hoping for the best.
I’m not anxious every day though, more like when I’m reminded of it. And in a weird way, I often feel guilty about that too.
@kimmy159 Well, I can understand the guilty part every now and then, but he's shown you a pretty consistent "pattern", so guessing that his pattern WON'T change seems like a good guess to me...

But if he surprises you--enjoy the change! 😊
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kimmy159 · F
@basilfawlty89 She could leave, she did it several times before. she just won’t or always chooses to go back :(
When I was a kid, she was in the hospital before because of my father. Yet. Every. Time. She. Goes. Back.
It’s very tiring emotionally for me too :(
Convivial · 26-30, F
Some people see being alone worse than anything...
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
One day your mom will have to put her foot down with him. Stop the drinking and get help or she will have to leave
kimmy159 · F
@smileylovesgaming She did that probably 4 times already but they both keep going back to that toxic circle. Even if they both started anew with someone else before.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
@kimmy159 yea leaving the abuse is hard what I have heard.
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