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kayoshin · 41-45, M
Secure borders is an oxymoron in the context of immigration.
Freedom of speech? From the people that couldn't even accept the freedom to vote and stormed the government?
These USA ppl are so funny 🤣🤣🤣
Nimbus · M
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Thrust · 56-60, M
@kayoshin

Secure borders is an oxymoron in the context of immigration

I lost IQ points seeing that

AbbeyRhode · F
Absolutely! This country cannot survive another four years of DemonRat treason.
Nimbus · M
Nope. Not at all. Look at all his "full self driving" lies and you'll see how untrustworthy he is.









December 2015
We're going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years.

January 2016
In ~2 years, summon should work anywhere connected by land & not blocked by borders, eg you're in LA and the car is in NY

June 2016
I really consider autonomous driving a solved problem, I think we are less than two years away from complete autonomy, safer than humans, but regulations should take at least another year

October 2016
By the end of next year, said Musk, Tesla would demonstrate a fully autonomous drive from, say, a home in L.A., to Times Square ... without the need for a single touch, including the charging.

January 2017
The sensor hardware and compute power required for at least level 4 to level 5 autonomy has been in every Tesla produced since October of last year.

March 2017
I think that [you will be able to fall asleep in a Tesla] is about two years

May 2017
Update on the coast to coast autopilot demo? - Still on for end of year. Just software limited. Any Tesla car with HW2 (all cars built since Oct last year) will be able to do this.

March 2018
I think probably by end of next year [end of 2019] self-driving will encompass essentially all modes of driving and be at least 100% to 200% safer than a person.

November 2018
Probably technically be able to [self deliver Teslas to customers doors] in about a year then its up to the regulators

January 2019
We need to be at 99.9999..% We need to be extremely reliable. When do we think it is safe for FSD, probably towards the end of this year then its up to the regulators when they will decide to approve that.

February 2019
We will be feature complete full self driving this year. The car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up, take you all the way to your destination without an intervention this year. I'm certain of that. That is not a question mark. It will be essentially safe to fall asleep and wake up at their destination towards the end of next year

April 2019
I think it will require detecting hands on wheel for at least six months.... I think this was all really going to be swept, I mean, the system is improving so much, so fast, that this is going to be a moot point very soon. No, in fact, I think it will become very, very quickly, maybe and towards the end this year, but I say, I'd be shocked if not next year, at the latest that having the person, having human intervene will decrease safety. DECREASE! (in response to human supervision and adding driver monitoring system)

May 2019
We could have gamed an LA/NY Autopilot journey last year, but when we do it this year, everyone with Tesla Full Self-Driving will be able to do it too

April 2020
Robotaxis release/deployment... Functionality still looking good for this year. Regulatory approval is the big unknown

April 2020
we could see robotaxis in operation with the network fleet next year, not in all markets but in some.

July 2020
I am extremely confident that level five or essentially complete autonomy will happen, and I think, will happen very quickly, I think at Tesla, I feel like we are very close to level five autonomy. I think—I remain confident that we will have the basic functionality for level five autonomy complete this year, There are no fundamental challenges remaining. There are many small problems. And then there's the challenge of solving all those small problems and putting the whole system together.









There's more where those came from, but you get the point; for the last EIGHT YEARS, Elon has been selling a product that DOESN'T EXIST!! His pronouncements are self-serving at best and dangerous at worst.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
I disagree with Elon. Free speech isn't at threat from a legal standpoint. It's all been social media companies and private enterprises deciding what they want to platform. He's proven incapable of securing the border even when he had congressional majority and his chosen policy was one of the most expensive solutions to illegal immigration while simultaneously being one of the least efficient solutions known. And he increased the deficit, even before the extra pandemic costs are taken into account for his fourth year.
Nimbus · M
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Nimbus · M
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Yes I agree
Nimbus · M
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Nimbus · M
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GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
Hmm... nope.
Fieldmaster · 46-50, M
I cannot trust EM...
Nimbus · M
@Fieldmaster Why is that?
You can’t get a trans manifesto out of the DOJ months after a shooting. But they dropping a bounty on trump from the last would be assassin no problem…
Me thinks merrick and Myorkus are in deep doo doo if trump wins..

Nimbus · M
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout $150,000 bounty from a guy with no job and $68 in his bank account...🤔
@wildbill83 Nobody is claiming he was a mastermind of reasoning.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
My only concern, will he survive another attempt on his life

Trump to win 2024
Nimbus · M
@nedkelly Good point Ned!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
I guess Elon Musk, missed Trumps' speeches and descisions.

1. He made it clear during his "Social Media Summit" that Donald Trump doesn't believe in "free speech".

And we don’t want to stifle anything. We certainly don’t want to stifle free speech, but that’s no longer free speech. See, I don’t think that the mainstream media is free speech either because it’s so crooked. It’s so dishonest.

So, to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that’s very dangerous speech and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech.


- Donald Trump, Social Media Summit 2019

SOURCE: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-presidential-social-media-summit/

So there is "free speech" and "non-free speech". It's a bit like Idi Amin Dada who said: "I can guarantee free speech, but I can't guarantee freedom after speech.".


2. When there was a bipartisan build proposed on the border, Trump single handedly blew it up. By pressuring replubicans to kill it. Because that's the only real thing he had going for himself for his new election campaign. The more the perception lives that the border is a mess, the more scared people will need someone to "protect" them.


3. Safe cities? ... By flooding the country with guns?


4.Sensible spending? Lol, he did more defecit spending in 4 years, then some presidents do in 8. In 2016 before he become president, he was talking about getting rid of the deficit. But instead he did the opposite during an economic boom. That's quite the accomplishment.

SOURCE: https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
Ontheroad · M
Right, because Trump and Musk are such honorable people🤮
Nimbus · M
@Ontheroad Not exclusive to those.
Ontheroad · M
@Nimbus right you are, but these two take it to extremes. Also, your question wasn't about "others", it was about the two of them.
4meAndyou · F
Elon ROCKS it, like Frankenstein at the Monster's Ball! Can't wait for him to examine ALL the books!!!
Nimbus · M
@4meAndyou Might be interesting ;)
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Fieldmaster · 46-50, M
@SW-User agreed. He has a supper big ego, how dare ypu challange or Criticize him. Anyone who has dared speak in opposition he silinces them at his work places and is one of the biggest bully.
SW-User
@Fieldmaster Yup. He seems to believe that not only is he the richest man in the world, he is also the most intelligent.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
I think Musk is supporting him so if he wins he can use him. They are both cut from the same cloth.
pancakeslam · 46-50, M
Trump has already done a lot of good. He called out San Francisco for being a liberal @#$#hole and now the city is taking steps to get its act together. So overall yeah I agree because that is the direction we are headed in.
Nimbus · M
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
Nimbus · M
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