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Potentially unpopular opinion of the day: If you have ever said the words, "People who commit sui are the most selfish people in the world"...

...you may be justtt the kind of evil that person killed themselves to get away from.
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Punches · 46-50, F
I never understood why it is said that people who do that are selfish.

Besides, wouldn't the survivors be selfish if they expected that person to stick around and keep suffering?

In some cases, it unfortunately is the only real option. Not all problems are temporary.
foldedunfolding · 41-45, F
@Punches i agree with everything you said, except that it is the only option. i think there ARE other options, but of you can't SEE them..AFFORD them..or have ACCESS to them..and no miracles are forthcoming..i d'know. the only real thing keeping me from it myself is the idea of hell.
Punches · 46-50, F
@foldedunfolding I knew someone who took that route due to physical health problems. She had tried everything else but to no avail.

I imagine a lot of people have "idealizations" of it. I have before. I figure though at my age I will be gone soon enough so why rush it. Besides, I am just not ready to leave yet.

I think ending it all should be only a last resort like if someone had nothing to live for.

But look, okay so now that you are on this side of 35 or maybe 40, try not to forget this - a lot of the BS that young adults deal with, we are passed all that. No one is pressuring us to marry, have kids, sustain awkward relationships, go to school, asking what we are going to be when we grow up (I still do not know), trying to get us involved in toxic situations, etc.

We spend the first half of our lives living for everyone else. It is time now to live for ourselves.
foldedunfolding · 41-45, F
@Punches thank you for that advice..it is lovely to think about! sadly, i still get a lot of pressure on my end..some societal,.some family, some my own expectations. i feel i should have at least one divorce under my belt by now, to show others i was at least loved that much once lol. but im with you..i dont want to have lived a life of pain, as i have..for 40 long years..only to have it be for naught.
Punches · 46-50, F
@foldedunfolding It has been said that for every opportunity we take, we forego 1,000 others.

I mean if you wanted to marry or at least have a relationship with someone, you probably still could.
Think of this - by our age, we all know how life works and are not as likely to make the mistakes that 20 somethings do.