MrRoboto · 51-55, M
The health and lives of loved ones is the priority. However, Covid-19 is not the only risk to life and health. Maintaining life and health also requires having an economy that hasn’t completely collapsed, because if the food supply is disrupted and other health services are disrupted, that also poses major risks to the health and lives of loved ones. This is going to be a very long slog with waves, and there’s going to have to be a balance that keeps the economy from collapsing while also exercising extreme caution. This is not going to be easy or pleasant by any stretch, and it’s going to be equally impossible to keep everything shut down as it is to instantly reopen everything everywhere. Lives and health always should be the priority, but that means keeping the totality of what that encompasses in mind as decisions are made.
BiasForAction · M
It is a false choice because it was never the case that we had to choose one over the other. We have to live in a world where there is a pandemic and there will be peaks and valleys until there is a vaccine or herd immunity, neither of which will be happening for at least 18 months to two years.
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JT123 · M
@SirenCalledLuce They will when we sink into a depression which will happen if we stay shut down too long! The UK won't fair too well either
SirenCalledLuce · F
@JT123 We are still in lock down, we are still paying 80% of people’s monthly wages for not working, we still have free healthcare for all.
There are pages of things we’ve got wrong but I tell you straight my lovely, I’d rather be on this side of that sea than yours.
If people over there could have just lasted a bit you might have been past the worst, but greed and a lack of civic moral duty got the better of them.
There are pages of things we’ve got wrong but I tell you straight my lovely, I’d rather be on this side of that sea than yours.
If people over there could have just lasted a bit you might have been past the worst, but greed and a lack of civic moral duty got the better of them.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
False premise. There is little to no threat to anyone's loved ones. In my province of 4.4 million people 50 have died from covid related illness. The vast majority of them are elderly and have underlying health issues. On the other hand every body is badly effected by shuttering businesses. Yes we may give Grandma a few more years of life and we will be raising the taxes on her grandchildren and great grandchildren to pay for the shut down for decades to come. Silly policy.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@BlueMetalChick Apparently so. I have read several first hand reports by physicians who say that they are told by their hospital to mark any death as covid related. Apparently there is money in making the claim.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 I dunno, that seems dubious. NYC had over three thousand people who died and were not recorded as coronavirus patients, but postmortem tests revealed they had died from the virus.
But then, with healthcare networks changing so much around the country probably somewhere in America somebody tried to do that.
But then, with healthcare networks changing so much around the country probably somewhere in America somebody tried to do that.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@BlueMetalChick I read they had 4000 that were credited with having died from covid except none of them had been tested for any trace of the disease.
walabby · M
If the infection rate can be kept to a level where hospitals can cope, more people will survive. If lockdown lasts for too long, everyone will be bankrupt. If the virus is allowed to run it's course with NO interference the huge number of deaths will have a very bad effect on the economy.
The correct response seems to be a fine balancing act here.. and no one seems to know exactly what it is.
The correct response seems to be a fine balancing act here.. and no one seems to know exactly what it is.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@walabby You actually believe any of the measures taken prevented the disease spreading?
walabby · M
@hippyjoe1955 They have slowed down the rate of spread so that hospitals are not totally overwhelmed like that have been in Spain, Italy and NY. They have bought us some time to hopefully develop vaccines.
I acknowledge that the world can't stay locked down for ever. Doing nothing is not an option either.
I acknowledge that the world can't stay locked down for ever. Doing nothing is not an option either.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@walabby So we are told. I remain unconvinced. I suspect the virus has been circulating longer and is much more widespread than we have been led to believe. We do know that most people are immune to it and of those that do get it most recover without medical attention. A few die from the disease as is the case for almost any disease we can think of.
goldenorchid · 46-50, F
It's not that simple, without the workforce going back to work, THE FOOD RUNS OUT!
goldenorchid · 46-50, F
@canusernamebemyusername maybe it was something that cannot be stored.
walabby · M
@goldenorchid I heard that it was lettuce...
The health sam, safety and welcome of the human beings in the country are far more important than lifting restrictions and opening beaches just support a failing capitalistic society.
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There will be many phases of lockdown, so any release of measures will be temporary.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Cash is king, baby!
juiceyangel333 · 31-35, F
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@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout oh wait it took me a second to understand that photo.
Lol
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@HeilHitler Something something tolerant left.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
Inb4 some idiot says Tiger King is more important than both 🙄
SirenCalledLuce · F
@MethDozer hahahaha love it
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