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OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
You even do not understand evolution.
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peterlee · M
@OriginalDumbMan But we all understand sin.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Okay, @OriginalDumbMan. Explain it.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@LordShadowfire evolution theory says that one species is transforming from other. But we can’t see the transformation process from monkey to humans. Do you see any trait or in between any species which is transforming from monkeys to humans. No. Evolutionist argue that the process happens in very large time scale. Life and death is also a process , which happens in approx 100 years but we see on a daily basis in fact every sec. But evolution process we don’t see.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@OriginalDumbMan At least you live up to your name.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@LordShadowfire as expected you can’t hold intelligent conversation
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@OriginalDumbMan Start an intelligent conversation, and I'll hold it just fine. 😆
But okay. Let me address your incredibly fallacious, bordering on ridiculous comment point by point, just to prove that I can. Not that I have anything to prove to the likes of you.
1. You are not being accurate when you say we haven't seen one species turning into another. But that's understandable. It can take zillions (note the super scientific measurement, LOL) of generations and thousands of years for it to happen, because each generation only sees minute changes.
2. There are no species right now that are transforming from monkeys to humans, because what would be the point? There are already humans. And by the way, monkeys never evolved into humans. We evolved from a now extinct variety of anthropoid ape, which itself evolved from another primate which was the common ancestor of all the apes, including your precious monkeys.
That's literally your entire argument obliterated. Have a great day.
But okay. Let me address your incredibly fallacious, bordering on ridiculous comment point by point, just to prove that I can. Not that I have anything to prove to the likes of you.
1. You are not being accurate when you say we haven't seen one species turning into another. But that's understandable. It can take zillions (note the super scientific measurement, LOL) of generations and thousands of years for it to happen, because each generation only sees minute changes.
2. There are no species right now that are transforming from monkeys to humans, because what would be the point? There are already humans. And by the way, monkeys never evolved into humans. We evolved from a now extinct variety of anthropoid ape, which itself evolved from another primate which was the common ancestor of all the apes, including your precious monkeys.
That's literally your entire argument obliterated. Have a great day.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@LordShadowfire There is no evidence of even one species transforming from one another. It is not possible to know your creation by scientific methods. First of all scientific methods are filled with guesses to best describe the measurement or observation, there is always exception to that method. That method cannot describe all the things fully. It just gives an illusion. There are many people who have attained god, from their experiences if you try to walk on that path maybe god can show his/her creation. Your theory doesn't explain about other things.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@OriginalDumbMan
https://now.northropgrumman.com/5-animals-that-have-evolved-recently
Normally, this is where I would inundate you with a bunch more articles, but I want you to actually read it and not feel overwhelmed, so we'll start you there.
There is no evidence of even one species transforming from one another.
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/lines-of-evidence/observations-of-evolution-in-the-wild/https://now.northropgrumman.com/5-animals-that-have-evolved-recently
Normally, this is where I would inundate you with a bunch more articles, but I want you to actually read it and not feel overwhelmed, so we'll start you there.
It is not possible to know your creation by scientific methods.
Then it didn't happen that way. Pretty simple. Even magick and spellcraft, I'm convinced, have scientific explanations behind them.Your theory doesn't explain about other things.
Really? No foolin'? The theory of evolution only explains evolution, and not other things? Wow, today I learned. 🙄😆@OriginalDumbMan
I'm not expert in evolutionary biology but i think i have a pretty decent grasp on the basics.
What questions or criticisms do you have of the theory?
I'm not expert in evolutionary biology but i think i have a pretty decent grasp on the basics.
What questions or criticisms do you have of the theory?
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@Pikachu I don't think he wants to repeat himself after getting his proverbial аss handed to him the first time.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@Pikachu @ItsMeMorgue what is soul and all other philosophical questions, which can’t be answered by medical science, what is god, what is purpose of existence can be answered if you some certain path and can never be answered by medical science. It requires higher level of consciousness. We as a living beings are not animals just food and consumption as animals. That’s why only humans can attain god. I will not answer again. If you know yourself as a soul which is a part of god you will gain freedom. Everything in this mortal world is temporary
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@OriginalDumbMan
what is soul and all other philosophical questions, which can’t be answered by medical science
Yet....what is god...
Something somebody made up until you can prove he's real. We as a living beings are not animals...
That’s why only humans can attain god.
I will not answer again.
You didn't answer the first time.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@ItsMeMorgue God will only show you, my proof will not work for you. And it also has not been designed this way. Each human has to do it on his/her own.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@OriginalDumbMan
God will only show you
How convenient. So I guess if God refuses to show me, I'm one of his garbage creations that he wants to throw away.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@ItsMeMorgue no. All things I don’t know. No book has been completely able to define god. In christianity you have to accept jesus I guess that will work, that is from my experience as I have observed this in other people.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@OriginalDumbMan So I'm good, then? Since I accepted him in 2003? Is that how it works? Once saved, always saved?
@OriginalDumbMan
Probably non-existent but also has no bearing on the theory of evolution or the evidence thereof
And you go one to ask a number of questions that do not seem to be related to evolution or the theory of evolution which leaves me wondering why you said i don't understand evolution and also what your actual contention with it is.
Can you elaborate?
For example, let's say god is areal being and only humans can have a relationship with it...how does that affect the fact that humans evolved?
Have you thought deeply about this or simply rejected evolution on religious grounds without proper investigation?
Be honest.
what is soul all other philosophical questions
Probably non-existent but also has no bearing on the theory of evolution or the evidence thereof
And you go one to ask a number of questions that do not seem to be related to evolution or the theory of evolution which leaves me wondering why you said i don't understand evolution and also what your actual contention with it is.
Can you elaborate?
For example, let's say god is areal being and only humans can have a relationship with it...how does that affect the fact that humans evolved?
Have you thought deeply about this or simply rejected evolution on religious grounds without proper investigation?
Be honest.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@Pikachu you haven’t seen any species transforming from one to another. Secondly people have understood evolution through scientific experiments and came to conclusion of evolution which they have observed and formed their theory. But if you follow philosophical path, evolution will come as a wrong. Philosophical path is indeed very big and very difficult to follow at end god will show you his/her creation. All knowledge is inside you, soul which is part of god is inside you, you just dont know yet. When you think of justice and all other factors which is related to humans then I think you will walk this path.
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@OriginalDumbMan
Well you're wrong about that.. We have indeed observed speciation in a laboratory setting but i suspect you're thinking of higher levels of taxonomy.
For that we do not look to philosophy but to science. Philosophy is a tool for examining how we think and reason. Science is a tool for learning what is true about the natural world
Science tells us that life on this planet shares a common ancestor and that the diversity is a result of descent with modification.
I think we can quite easily prove this in terms you already accept.
Example: How does a paternity test work? What are we doing with that test to determine whether or not a man is the father of the child?
you haven’t seen any species transforming from one to another
Well you're wrong about that.. We have indeed observed speciation in a laboratory setting but i suspect you're thinking of higher levels of taxonomy.
For that we do not look to philosophy but to science. Philosophy is a tool for examining how we think and reason. Science is a tool for learning what is true about the natural world
Science tells us that life on this planet shares a common ancestor and that the diversity is a result of descent with modification.
I think we can quite easily prove this in terms you already accept.
Example: How does a paternity test work? What are we doing with that test to determine whether or not a man is the father of the child?
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@Pikachu science works on material body which is made up of five elements, earth, fire, space, water and air. It will never work on soul. Path to god is something different. God has shown me soul.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@OriginalDumbMan
science works on material body which is made up of five elements, earth, fire, space, water and air.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@OriginalDumbMan
science works on material body which is made up of five elements, earth, fire, space, water and air.
Okay, I'm going to stop you right there, because honestly, somebody should. The five elements are not physical, they are spiritual. I fully believe in them, but not like that. Also, it's not space, it's spirit. It will never work on soul... God has shown me soul.
What is soul? How does it differ from Spirit?@OriginalDumbMan
So...it sounds like you don't understand biological evolution nor do you actually seem to be taking a stand against anything the theory describes with your talk of soul.
Here's a straight question, please try to give me a straight answer:
What (if any) issues do you consider to be deleterious to the assertion that evolution is a fact and explains the diversity of life on this planet (most basically) through descent with modification?
So...it sounds like you don't understand biological evolution nor do you actually seem to be taking a stand against anything the theory describes with your talk of soul.
Here's a straight question, please try to give me a straight answer:
What (if any) issues do you consider to be deleterious to the assertion that evolution is a fact and explains the diversity of life on this planet (most basically) through descent with modification?
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@Pikachu the diversity of life you are talking about has been created by god. Infact each creature has a soul. All things cannot be described or imagined by human brain. If god only shows you then you will believe. Every concept till now you have learnt will break. I don’t know much about evolution, but if you go by evolution people who have been unjustified if they are dead then what is thier identity, their life is finished or is it just to survive for food . Why do you exisit. All these questions helped to achieve through god. What about people who are doing wrong things never face justice. All these things when I questioned, then god showed me and when god showed me, it means god created humans. Then evolution didn’t happen. That’s my concept. First starting point of god is that you are going to die. Everything you loved , you learnt you will lose. Then what’s the point. Then comes the concept of god. Every soul has a relationship with god. All other things are temporary.
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