There is no God, there is no Truth, there is no Saviour and i will prove it using the Bible.

[b][b][i][c=800000]There is no god[/c][/i][/b] - Psalms 14:1
[b][i][c=800000]There is no god with me[/c][/i][/b] - Deuteronomy 32-39
[b][i][c=800000]There is no god[/c][/i][/b] - 1Kings 8:23
[b][i][c=800000]There is no god in Israel[/c][/i][/b] - 2Kings 1:6
[i][b][c=800000]There is no god[/c][/b][/i] - 2Chronicles 6:14
[i][b][c=800000]There is no Truth[/c][/b][/i] - Hosea 13:1
[i][b][c=800000]There is no saviour [/c][/b][/i] - Hosea 13:4
[i][b][c=800000]There is no answer of god[/c][/b][/i] - Micha 3:7
[i][b][c=800000]There is no god[/c][/b][/i] - Isaiah 45:21 [/b]

[i]Tadaa![/i] The Bible admits that there is no god!

....Now that's just silly, isn't it?
But that's what creationists do when they deny the science of evolution by quote-mining reputable scientists to make it appear as though they admit that evolution is wrong or that there is an absence of evidence for it.

Quote-mining is deliberately dishonest. If you're a creationist don't do this and more importantly, don't fall for it just because it's what you want to hear.

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BibleData · M

As usual I don't see the logic in your conclusion.

While I would agree that contextomy as your silly use of scripture is wrong I can easily show to any logical thinking person why that is just as you can with the creationists. Since contextomy would most likely employ a strawman or appeal to authority fallacy by accident or deliberately, it could be dishonest or it could be accidental misunderstanding.

Quote mining . . . I usually only quote something from my opponent, either atheist or theist for the sake of humor or just to demonstrate the opinions of their own appeal to authority. It usually doesn't really mean much to me, it's for the opponent. For example, I will quote the Catholic Encyclopedia plainly stating that hell or the immortal soul isn't scriptural but of pagan origin. Or, science publications on the development of language in our other discussion.

LordShadowfire · M

@BibleData I find you to be an exception to this rule, but so many Christians do exactly what the OP is doing. They pick and choose quotes from the Bible, ignoring context, in order to make their points. Then they get mad when you pick them apart.

BibleData · M

@LordShadowfire to the average theist I and people who have similar beliefs as me are as bad or possibly worse than the heathen. Just as the average theist is, to me, worse than y'all. So, I can appreciate where you are coming from, I think. BUT! When it comes to God you have two choices: By the book or not. Everyone thinks they are making good use of the book but they may be making it up or regurgitating tradition that has nothing to do with the book. My advantage is that it doesn't matter whether the opposition is atheist or theist in that regard. The atheist don't care about the book and the theist think, wrongly, arguably, of course, that they do care about the book instead of tradition.

@Pikachu in his OP was thinking more along the lines of creationists misapplication of "science" but it's the same, as he demonstrated, with misapplication of the Bible. So, I certainly see the point, so long as it's kept in mind that evolutionists have to be backed by the science and creationists have to be backed by the book. One reason the debate itself is a silly waste of time. The book doesn't say anything about it.

Pikachu

@BibleData

lol what conclusion?
This isn't an argument, bud. It's a a send up of how silly quote mining is and how pointlessly dishonest it is.
If you don't do it then good on ya.
Unfortunately many mainstream YEC are only too happy to deploy this sophistry.

There's no argument here 😉

BibleData · M

@Pikachu How does quoting a scientist make it appear as though they admit that evolution is wrong if they don't do that? How is it deliberate or dishonest? It's like saying that people who say there is no such thing as a god are being dishonest for saying that. It isn't a case of dishonesty, it's a case of ignorance. That is the argument.

Pikachu

@BibleData

Um...i'm not sure what's going on in your heard. I think you're just eager to argue with me no matter what the subject lol.

Fact: Mainstream creationist ministries frequently quote mine scientists and scientific publications to make it appear that a) scientists admit that evolution is wrong or b) that scientists corroborate a YEC interpretation of the Bible.
Someone like you may, in ignorance', repeat the product of a quote mine. Organizations like AiG or ICR are not just repeating things they heard from authority because they [i]are[/i] the YEC authority. They are deliberately misrepresenting scholarship to bolster their worldview.

lol this is nothing. It is what it is.