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I'm honestly believing money doesn't exist.

I've always heard common retorts to socialists regarding spending other people's money but honestly the more the Trump administration goes on, the more I simply don't believe in money and therefore don't buy that we run out of money.

Since we seem to not be running out of money, money must therefore be non existent.

If you look at how much wasteful spending goes to right winged leaders in other countries being funded, corporations, anti abortion causes and less that goes to health care, welfare programs, immigration reform (we should be making it easier for immigrants to be here in the states,) wage increases, affordable schooling and cheap transportation.. the more I believe it's a lie.

We obviously aren't running out of money because we keep spending it on things in the excess of trillions on other countries right winged politics and to fund solely conservative causes.

The only time we seem to magically run out of money is when human overall welfare is discussed though. Despite immigrants giving our economy an extra 80 billion yearly in taxes both documented and undocumented, we magically run out of money when they are discussed or anything related to the well being of others.

That's why money is not real, it is only real when it's nothing to do with taking care of actual citizens of said country. There's no such thing.
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candycane · 36-40, F Best Comment
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Bottlerocket · 26-30, MNew
I recommend you visit Zambia and see communities has ran out of money
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Bottlerocket any community that has run out of money is a figment of my imagination.
Bottlerocket · 26-30, MNew
@SatanBurger can't argue there
In terms of how it impacts the world money very much does exist and is vital for the lower classes.


But you are largely right that for the elite ruling class it is a very very different thing. To the point that Elon Musk literally regards his net worth as a high score in a video game.

And at least in those regards for example net worth is total bullshit since most of the elite it is based on stock options not anything real.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It just seems like it doesn't exist because of the trillions that go to pointless causes over citizens. I fail to see how they have just have 20 billion here, 1 million here and then give money out like water to rich people but then say that we don't have money for other things. Right now as far as I'm concerned I'm suspicious of everything 🙃
Scarcity is often a political choice about allocation.

It’s not just about what we can afford, but who we choose to prioritize.

Budgets tell us who and what really matters.
AdmiralPrune · 46-50, M
Money because tragically real when working all hours and you still struggle with bills, rent etc.

Money must be real for Trump, otherwise he wouldn’t be prepared to go to such lengths to manipulate the stock market.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
The U.S. economy is built on debt and borrowing. We can keep "printing" magic money as long as other countries are willing to buy our debt. When they won't take our IOUs anymore then we have a problem.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The core function of a state is to issue currency and regulate its circulation through taxation and the control of interest rates. The idea that a state can run out of money is false and absurd. All that remains is the question of priority. Is it more important to let the already comfortably off become richer than make sure that everyone has a decent minimum standard of living?
Convivial · 26-30, F
Interesting perspective... Not so much about it is real but he is spent and his is manufactured or printed.
One thing which had always confused me is this....I put 100 bucks in the bank and they lend it to someone who puts it in their bank which then lends it out to someone else.... On paper there 300 bucks floating around... But is that true?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Money is nothing but an idea. Even the gold standard no longer applies. So the worth of money is basically the worth of ideas.

Now ask yourself who holds the patents on ideas! Also ask why patents are often renewed. Some patents even over a hundred years old.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Oh there's international patent laws as well. You got to remember this is a global economy.

Ask yourself why YouTube puts out the warning "this can't be shown in your country".
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@DeWayfarer Agreed. However, there have been a number of cases brought by other countries, claiming violations by America. And (in Trump style) they are dragged out in the US courts, until the overseas party runs out of money to fight on, due to the expense of travel and the time involved. The Transpacific Partnership that Trump cancelled had a bunch of extreme intellectual property dispute clauses that virtually laid the burden of proof squarely on anyone making a claim against a US litigant, with any claim by America also laying ther burden of proof on the overseas to prove it has not at fault..Luckily no one liked the deal..But not because of that..😷
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman My point though is the USA laid out the patent framework and the international community did the same thing.

Money is backed by ideas. Not just in the USA yet globally.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Modern Fiat currency isn't backed by anything. It used to be with the Gold Standard. Neoliberal economics is cancer. They manipulate the markets on a whim, and claim to be Free Market while blocking affordable Chinese cars and now wanting to ban Chinese AI. It's all a joke. It's a war and misery economy.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@DeWayfarer Neoliberalism is an economic term, it doesn't mean only pertaining to liberal Democrats. It's just the phrasing that's confusing. Both the Democrat and Republican party of our time are considered to be Neoliberal.

And if you get technical about it, Republicans (at least prior to MAGA) could be classified as "liberal" in a political sense because they claimed to believe in enlightenment values like property rights, individual rights and the the ability to vote in a democratic system with checks and balances, in contrast with Communists, Fascists, and Monarchists.

Furthermore, Clinton and Obama (Clinton especially) expounded upon a lot of the neoliberal BS Reagan and Thatcher kicked into high gear. It's not that they couldn't stop it - they did not want to stop it, because Clinton and Obama believe in much of the same, just in a different permutation.
Its not that money is questionable, its the morals of those who control it that is🫤
Uhohuhoh · 56-60, C
It's socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. As usual.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
In fact, you are grasping the truth. The only true function of maney is as a store of value. If you simply prinit it, with no underlying value, the value simply doesnt exist.😷
Bumbles · 56-60, M
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Bumbles Wow that's crazy, something went wrong in 2026
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@SatanBurger Indeed, I got the year wrong! The interest is so much bigger.

fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
What a bunch of BS !

 
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