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contrails · 56-60, M
You really don't get it. Obviously this is not about "giving thanks for being defeated in a war and having your country destroyed". It's about celebrating the end of a nightmare. Think of it this way: the allies also celebrate VE day, and their countries were [i]also[/i] destroyed just the same (except the USA, but you get the point). The Allies obviously are not celebrating the "destruction of their countries", but the [i]end of the war[/i].

The war, the nightmare, the destruction, ended on VE day, for [i]both[/i] Germany and the allies. Imagine if Nazi Germany had won, the Germans would be living under such dictatorship. The "thanks" is for allowing Germany the free, prosperous, dignified future it has enjoyed post-war. That was only allowed by the defeat of Nazi Germany. That's what the celebration is all about.

Hats off to the Germans who have had the wisdom and maturity to see the things for what they are and not let themselves being carried away by childish, ignorant and simplistic nationalist views of "us" vs "them". This is much bigger than that. WW2 exposed the idiocy of nationalistic arrogance, something that sadly, is crawling back in some countries (including Germany)...
Cierzo · M
@contrails The allies won, that's the small difference.

Germsny could celebrate the end of war, that is understandable, but using the word 'thanks'???

Japan got free and prosperous too, but never thanked the US for the atomic bombs. They have dignity and don't spit on the memory on those who died.
contrails · 56-60, M
@Cierzo It's interesting that you mention the Japanese as the example to follow, as to this they they've refused to admit any responsibility in their war crimes and they honor their war criminals. This says a lot about where you stand on these issues.
Cierzo · M
@contrails War is war, every country and every army do atrocities. WWII was not an exception. Japan could apologise, also the US for Hiroshima, the UK for Dresden...

Sssslm · F
I think it s about giving thanks to people who worked together to end a disaster of the human race. And to thank the beginning of a promising future had come, and how the people there who work hard together to maintain the goodness consistantly for many many years so that the country still exists in good condition.
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
Most Germans are completely brainwashed. Even saying "Germany belongs to the Germans" is seen as a hate crime by many Germans.

It is one thing to denounce Hitler and the Nazis. It is something different to be so guilt ridden that you want to abolish your country and hand it over to strangers.
Cierzo · M
@Feuerstern And Mao more than any of them. Also, the Japanese committed atrocities in Asia as horrendous as those of the Nazis in Europe.

Those 'rankings' of criminals are certainly made by the winners, and often considering some victims more worthy than others.
Feuerstern · 51-55, M
@Mugin16 Yes Indeed. Very sad. I know what some of my old family member had to go through.
Feuerstern · 51-55, M
@Cierzo Yes I know very infuriating. Meanwhile everyone sure likes our cars and our technology. Hmmm how did we get to the moon again. oh Ja! Wernher von Braun, how could I be so silly.
Rosejilly · 56-60, F
Er, wasn't it Germany that started the whole thing? Austrian bloke democratically voted in by Germans?
Cierzo · M
@Rosejilly Rejecting nazism is one thing, giving thanks to those who destroyed your country is being quite sick in your mind
Ingwe · F
Today our tv channels are filled with programs with germany in mind
Cierzo · M
@Ingwe I did not know what day it was until I saw the pic. Russians must be celebrating Victory Day, and very fairly so since they defeated the invader.
Feuerstern · 51-55, M

 
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