It's wild how humans would destroy the planet to the point of extinction
And would rather create a terra colony on mars and attempt to sustain life on mars before considering taking better care of the planet
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chilloutab2 · 41-45, M
Humans will not be powerful enough to destroy the planet for several millennia going by our historical rate of progress... we need to come out of this fallacy that we are "destroying the planet".... that's extremely hubristic and reeks of false pride.
We are just altering the conditions of the planet that we are used to... or more accurately, speeding up the natural rate of a change that is inevitable with or without us.
In order to pursue our lives as we know it, there is no other way but to alter the conditions.... the choice is to either completely abandon our current way of life overnight to stop these changes, or to plan in advance for the challenges that we will need to face by continuing to live as we do.
Both paths are equally difficult and neither is a winning path... as Thomas Sowell says... there are no solutions, only trade-offs.
It is not within human power, at least at this moment, to cause all life to end on this planet. If all existing nuclear weapons were detonated at once, life would still survive on earth. Let's mot make this a moral issue but a practical one.
As for Mars, it is another inevitability that if humans as a species survive long enough, we will go to other planets, like a baby that survives infancy steps out of its cradle (the Earth) and walks about.
We are just altering the conditions of the planet that we are used to... or more accurately, speeding up the natural rate of a change that is inevitable with or without us.
In order to pursue our lives as we know it, there is no other way but to alter the conditions.... the choice is to either completely abandon our current way of life overnight to stop these changes, or to plan in advance for the challenges that we will need to face by continuing to live as we do.
Both paths are equally difficult and neither is a winning path... as Thomas Sowell says... there are no solutions, only trade-offs.
It is not within human power, at least at this moment, to cause all life to end on this planet. If all existing nuclear weapons were detonated at once, life would still survive on earth. Let's mot make this a moral issue but a practical one.
As for Mars, it is another inevitability that if humans as a species survive long enough, we will go to other planets, like a baby that survives infancy steps out of its cradle (the Earth) and walks about.
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wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@chilloutab2 ending hunger & malnourishment, and completely switching to completely organic/non GMO farming is easy...
we just need to reduce the global population by about 80-90% first... 🤔
we just need to reduce the global population by about 80-90% first... 🤔
chilloutab2 · 41-45, M
@wildbill83 Reducing the global population will require ending hunger and bringing prosperity first.
Prosperity shrinks populations, poverty increases populations... there is no historic exception to this... Every time in history in every place, whenever a group of people have become rich their numbers have shrunk and whenever they have become poor their numbers have grown.. this is independent of birth control.
Organic and non-GMO farming does not have the yield per hectare that is required to end hunger now... for that we need fertilisers such as ammonium nitrate, super phosphate and potassium sulfate - all derived from petroleum - and genetically modified seeds for higher yields.
It's a Catch 22... Once we end hunger and bring prosperity by using these then the population will fall on its own and then we can adopt organic farming.
Prosperity shrinks populations, poverty increases populations... there is no historic exception to this... Every time in history in every place, whenever a group of people have become rich their numbers have shrunk and whenever they have become poor their numbers have grown.. this is independent of birth control.
Organic and non-GMO farming does not have the yield per hectare that is required to end hunger now... for that we need fertilisers such as ammonium nitrate, super phosphate and potassium sulfate - all derived from petroleum - and genetically modified seeds for higher yields.
It's a Catch 22... Once we end hunger and bring prosperity by using these then the population will fall on its own and then we can adopt organic farming.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@chilloutab2 that was a joke...sorta... 🤔
organic farming will [u]never[/u] be able to sustain a modern society, nor is it likely that we'll ever end hunger, no matter how much food is available (all that "humanitarian aid" that gets send to central african countries usually gets seized by militants and either used as leverage or a means to exert control over a starving population).
Money as charity doesn't solve anything either, as people are more likely to spend it on luxuries rather than necessities.
organic farming will [u]never[/u] be able to sustain a modern society, nor is it likely that we'll ever end hunger, no matter how much food is available (all that "humanitarian aid" that gets send to central african countries usually gets seized by militants and either used as leverage or a means to exert control over a starving population).
Money as charity doesn't solve anything either, as people are more likely to spend it on luxuries rather than necessities.
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OldBrit · 61-69, M
We're currently living through the sixth mass extinction on the planet. Previously none had been due to a particular species like this one is.
Obviously the planet won't die completely and life will continue and the planet until our sun starts to expand in billions of years.
But are we likely to make the earth uninhabitable for most animals and ourselves? Possibly. We really need to listen to nature.
Obviously the planet won't die completely and life will continue and the planet until our sun starts to expand in billions of years.
But are we likely to make the earth uninhabitable for most animals and ourselves? Possibly. We really need to listen to nature.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
One of those things gets us closer to surviving the sun killing us but if you want to stay on earth trying to keep it alive forever, be my guest. It will be in vain and when it's swallowed up with whatever resources we stupidly didn't strip from it, all we can do is watch and say what a waste.
Torsten · 36-40, M
do tell how the planet is destroyed to the point of extinction?
aboveaverageaveragejoe · 51-55, M
@Torsten Global warming, over population so building roads and housing and factories where farmland used to be, deforestation, coastline erosion due to rising water levels, record number of hurricanes due to human induced warming, reliance on fossil fuel that'll eventually run out, RF and EMF radiation from satellites, cellphones, radios, computer equipment is killing our bodies, destruction of the ozone layer that protects us from the sun, increased smog and fumes from record numbers of vehicles, Almost every country on Earth is either at war, or has a finger in someone's war.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
Torsten · 36-40, M
@aboveaverageaveragejoe and yet humans are not even close to being extinct. In fact its rather ridiculous to even try and claim such a thing.
Climate change was a thing long before humans even existed and will be around long after. Certain humans are just so narcissistic and think its all about them.
Our fates have already been sealed.
Dont believe everything the fear mongers try to telling you
Climate change was a thing long before humans even existed and will be around long after. Certain humans are just so narcissistic and think its all about them.
Our fates have already been sealed.
Dont believe everything the fear mongers try to telling you
Ambroseguy80 · 51-55, M
And they pour so much money into space exploration. That’s always boggled my mind a little.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
The earth is doing fine. It is not nearly as fragile as the econuts want you to believe.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Billionaires. Not humans, billionaires.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
Who is destroying the planet?
Elessar · 26-30, M
You've misspelled [i]billionaires[/i] 😜
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
We totally would if given the chance
OldBrit · 61-69, M
Yep.
aboveaverageaveragejoe · 51-55, M
Why destroy one when you can destroy two!
You should checkout The Expense series.
You should checkout The Expense series.
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