Weather Manipulation and "Climate Change"

@Oster1 understandable......we are in the phase, "slow, controlled release of reality". The previous spoon fed reality was to deny weather manipulation/cloud seeding and call anyone mentioning it a tin foil hat loony.

A hard place to climb down from.

@gol979 It's this inverted reality, never ending chaos, that only the strongest, will survive.

It's very easy to read the tea leaves. Free will comes to mind. 😊

@gol979 @Oster1 There is no doubt that cloud seeding can enhance precipitation in some areas in some storms. However, the flooding that occurred in Dubai was the result of a large, regional storm system. Any cloud seeding done beforehand would have had a minimal impact on the flood event. Global climate change is more likely to have been a contributor, since warmer air masses can hold more water vapor and lead to larger precipitation events. We have seen this in the US, since precipitation intensity has increased with increasing temperatures. Engineers have had to modify culvert design, for example, since what I would have designed using a 24-hour, 25-year storm in 1980 is much more likely to occur now than it was then.

@windinhishair yep, there was a well documented weather event in dubai that was going to occur....begs the question, why try and tamper with this when we already knew it was going to be a deluge of rain?

And the point i am making is environmentalists should make actual AGM/cloud seeding/weather manipulation their main goal to "ban" (along with soil health) rather than banning log burners, restriction of movement, wholesale changes to how we feed ourselves (that does need addressing but not from the point of view of methane, nitrogen etc), punitive taxes. If they dont all the green movement is doing is providing the mask for more control over huge swathes of people and the world.

@gol979 The problem with your thesis is that banning cloud seeding is going to have a minimal impact, while the other things you mention will be far more impactful. We are going to experience changes in our activities as a result of global climate change regardless of what we do. The real question is do we undertake sensible actions now to minimize future impacts, or do we accept massive impacts down the road and deal with them when they occur? People need to realize that what is happening now isn't the result of what we are doing at the moment, but the things we did years and decades ago when we had an opportunity to minimize future impacts. The relative lack of action has baked in (pun intended) global climate impacts for the foreseeable future. Do we as a society want to do anything now to prevent global climate impacts from getting much worse?

@windinhishair its not my thesis......if you are telling billions of people your life is going to become much harder based on "the science"but "the science" doesnt even address actual weather manipulation, billions of people will not consent. You will have to force this green ideology.

Ever wonder why all monopolistic corporations, governments, world banks agree with you?

And you didnt answer the question......why would the same people/institutions who are selling this green ideology then go and cloud seed in a forecasted massive storm?

You do not have the consent to force this agenda and not even a whiff of credibility if this cannot be addressed (not to mention the decades long wrap sheet of the climate doom sellers being completely wrong with a massive amount of their predictions, based on "the science TM")

@gol979 I don't know why Dubai would seed before a massive regional storm, but it was a waste of time. It was not done by people/institutions who are selling a green ideology. I see no evidence of European or US citizens seeding Dubai's clouds in a single event before a storm. You are conflating two unrelated things.

You do know that weather and climate are not the same thing, right?

People around the world agree with my comments because they are based on sound science. There is no global conspiracy.

@Oster1 @gol979

@Oster1 Why do you put quotation marks around the phrase 'real science'? Quotation marks are used to indicate sarcasm.

@CorvusBlackthorne Then he used it right.

@LordShadowfire you are claiming im wearing a tin foil hat for saying TPTB ate cloud seeding/manipulating weather but nothing in this thread? And you didnt clarify. So get educated from @windinhishair who will confirm that this is real and happening.......but of course you wont alter your thinking after finding out that weather manipulation is real after mocking people who said it was to, "well they are doing it but it does absolutely nothing"

Or maybe you will have a ponder and realise that this green agenda is about changing the economic landacape, the way we eat and controlling billions of people......and maybe use your meme skills to go against this agenda?

@LordShadowfire That is far more likely. @gol979 seems to be unable to comprehend the definition of the word evidence.

@LordShadowfire @CorvusBlackthorne A simple yes or no.......do you think cloud seeding/weather manipulation is happening?

@gol979 Even though we both know it's happening, it isn't creating what you pretend it is, so it doesn't matter what my answer to that question is.

@LordShadowfire lol stop wasting everyones times asking for evidence for something you know exists. Cant believe how many people go down this route. Its infantile.

@gol979 Cloud seeding does happen in some jurisdictions on occasion, but it has no impact on the global climate. Or at least any more than adding a glass of water to the ocean raises global sea levels. It really isn't worth debating or discussing.