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This is an era of plentiful, cheap, renewable energy, but politicians just can’t admit it

Fuck them! They can do so much better😡

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/20/renewable-energy-wind-power-fossil-fuel-electricity
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Renewal energy is not cheap nor plentiful. If it was we'd have a lot more of it.

It's just physics
SW-User
@HoraceGreenley No it wasn't. It was proved to you that it was real. You simply refused to believe it.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@SW-User You proved nothing and you are the one that refuses to believe.
nacnud · 31-35, M
Always remember a lot of the lobbyists in oil & gas used to work in the tobacco industry promoting smoking. The change to renewables will happen but it will be driven by economics particularly as oil and gas supplies dwindle and costs soar. Grid scale storage and grid stability are the two main hurdles.
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@nacnud Agreed. But politics is the final, and the most insurmountable hurdle, sadly.
PSuss1 · 51-55, M
@SW-User difficult, with so many vested interests, but not insurmountable ...we'll get there eventually, as we have with Big Tobacco
PSuss1 · 51-55, M
They know it, but powerful Big Energy lobbying/$$$ prevents them speaking up. Also disgusting (but not surprising) to see that the UK has the highest unit energy price IN THE WORLD (i.e. Ofgem are balls deep in the corruption).

This selfish, greedy, corrupt Government has so much to answer for.
PSuss1 · 51-55, M
@SW-User very true, does have a Last Days of Rome feel to it, sadly.
SW-User
@PSuss1 Well, all I can say is what comes after they're gone can't be worse...
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
@PSuss1 It's easy to break things, much more difficult to build them. The U.S. certainly has it's problems, but there also a lot of good things about the U.S. We do need reforms, but I for one will not join in on "burning it all down."
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
They aren't going to do anything. It was the same thing 20 years ago. They just keep kicking the can down the road.

Better hope the free market fixes this. 😉
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@SumKindaMunster I think the free market will fix this. Renewables are becoming cheaper so rapidly that it will soon make overwhelming economic sense to ditch fossil fuels. We have all the technologies right now to get almost 100% of out energy needs from renewables (long distance shipping and aviation remain problems); all we need to do is scale up. Additionally, phasing out government subsidies from fossil fuels and switching them to renewables is a no brainer...
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User Better hope so. The world governments are too busy blowing up Ukraine and Russia to care about this.

BTW, it was almost the same shit 20 years ago. Back then though we kept pushing for a world climate agreement, basically looking for concessions from the BRIC countries to not burn their environments down, like we did our own. After almost 20 years of this, they finally extracted some concessions during the 2016 Paris meeting, and then declared the problem solved.

Whoops! Looks like we already blew past those agreements and here we are in 2023 with the situation worse than it was before.
CopperFox420 · 36-40, F
We need to get rid of the politicians but every continues to vote them in
CopperFox420 · 36-40, F
@SW-User What if nobody voted?
SW-User
@CopperFox420 Then things would remain exactly as they are and the Conservatives would be in power forever.
CopperFox420 · 36-40, F
@SW-User Okay fine let’s burn it down then
Nanoose · 61-69, M
The province I live in (BC) gets 100% of it's electric energy from renewable sources and it is fairly cheep so it is possible to have clean cheep energy. Cheers!
nacnud · 31-35, M
A change in Government will help but we need to move away from benchmarking prices to gas particularly when over 50% of the yearly electrical production is from renewable sources! Lobbying also has a big part to play in this as well.
plungesponge · 36-40, M
Yep and also more than half the energy we are currently using is wasted by dumb industrial practice or deliberately wasteful consumer products, because it keeps the "economy" going
It's war forever and the oil or gas Americans tell you to buy.
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