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Musk Spreading Russian Propaganda

Apparently there is some false information going around on the internet. Strange, I know. But here is an evidence based clip which explains why the rubbish spreading about USAID and celebrities is false.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c9d53vx4w16o

I'm hoping that viewers outside the UK will be directed to the .com version.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
It's no secret that Russia has a very sophisticated Official Lies Department, and is more likely to support Presiden Trump than anyone else in the USA, so this is not at all suprising.

The BBC would have been better not to have used an American presenter though. Apart from far too many American voices on the BBC generally anyway, and its slavish following of the Presidenetial election campaign, I can see that being treated by some in America as "obviously" anti-Trump propaganda posing as if from the BBC!

Umpteen million views on X, eh? I wonder how that could possibly have happened? Surely it's not possible for sites like X to have a "View" generator, is it? Or maybe they are genuine but where are the majority of its readers?

I also wonder if it's possible to make posts on the Internet display their country of origin.....
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Many years ago I was invited to help a Swedish family to have conversations in British English so they didn't pick up US accents. The girls were receptive but boy was not convinced and now a man he speaks with a pronounce US accent. You're right, Hollywood is very influential.
@ArishMell Except that doesn't even ad up. Powerful countries with serious intelligence agencies do very specific things to achieve very specific outcomes.

That is the complete opposite of "be a random troll on the internet and hope the chaos does something we like."

I mean there are legit reasons to have an issue with USAID and NED. No idea why Trump is not a fan. But both organizations are offshoots of the CIA. That is why they were created.

A former director said they were created to do what the CIA can't. And to basically hide the ball when it comes to stirring up shit in other countries.

Britain is absolutely a belligerent in this proxy conflict. Not even the MOD denies that at this point and neither do the Americans. Are we seriously going to play 2014 silly games and pretend this all just came out of nowhere?

And your twisted logic doesn't change the facts. Yes UK personel are on the ground in Ukraine and have fired shots in anger. Those fancy cruise missiles? They require British, American, French etc military personel to enter the targeting data and the sattelite info. Those are state secrets and all of those countries handing that information over to a Ukrainian to do is literally illegal. In the UK I believe it is the Official Secrets Act.

But you don't even need to play that game. American soldiers in Vietnam were "advisors" for years before they got a label change.


I referenced 4chan because that is literally the level of nonsense here.

4chan are not really related to Qnon but have been about spreading mischief and chaos online. Their suspected involvement in Qanon is because that sort of nonsense is the sort of thing these people find funny.

It varies from illegal hacking, to "lets see what dumb shit we can convince people of online, to doxxing someone to send them 200 pizzas.
Okay! Just talk about Musk and the illegal power grab like it's difficult, you're fighting against it! Then you lose a few, cast doubt on the future - then you accept the illegal power grab and the Dems will share power with it. It's already done
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
BBC was getting funding from USAID. Do try harder to get better sources.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK If I know the bias I can often counter it. However I need facts more than opinion. The facts are that the BBC through its many branches has been getting funding from USAID. I don't have a dollar figure if only because I don't know how accurate such a number would be but regardless the BBC is part of the propaganda arm of the CIA/Deep State. That is why they were in lock step over the COVID scam. All the major news sources were spouting exactly almost word for word the same line and people who only listened to those outlets were conned into doing great harm to themselves. I have nothing but pity for those who were conned but I would hope that it would serve as a lesson to not trust all the media when they all say the same thing. It was not many years ago that USAID was Enemy Number One to those on the left and nothing but sunshine and rainbows to those on the right. Suddenly when some long over due rationalisation of USAID comes about the faves/villains switch. Hmmmm.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 I know you won't want to look up the BBC Media Action statement, so let me make it easy for you:

A free press is essential to freedom and democracy – and 75% of countries around the world do not have a free press. BBC Media Action supports local media around the world to deliver trusted information to people most in need.

Like many international development organisations, BBC Media Action has been affected by the temporary pause in US government funding, which amounts to about 8% of our income in 2023-24. We’re doing everything we can to minimise the impact on our partners and the people we serve.

As the BBC’s international charity, we are completely separate from BBC News, and wholly reliant on our donors and supporters to carry out our work.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK The BBC is not free press. You said yourself it is paid for by the British government. That is the definition of a captured press. Nice of you to copy and paste though.
Actually this seems just as likely to be a US information warfare plant.

Get people chasing their tails over this, "debunk" it and the less inquisitive will just assume any other embarrassing information coming out of USAID is fake.

Nevermind that USAID and NED were created as offshoots of the CIA.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
no one is interested in more bbc propaganda...

wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@FreddieUK again, not interested... might as well be www.morelamebullshit.co.uk
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@wildbill83 OK No debate...no commenting on my posts.
TexChik · F
@wildbill83 If socialists write it, it must be accurate. 🙄
Dude .. you are from the UK! Quit trying to subvert US govt and politics with your constant B.S.

Be thankful you don't have to speak German .. and mind YOFB.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@BrandNewMan Like it or not, the politics of the US is important to the whole world. It's all our business. But you don't have to read my or anyone else's posts if they upset you.
Elon is gonna revoke your reverse secret govt social meda troll funding
TexChik · F
So says the socialist Brit. You just learned what you read or heard on the news was paid for socialist propaganda. The tired old RUSSIA nonsense is long past its shelf life and was never proven...only lied about.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@TexChik OK Stop now.
TexChik · F
@FreddieUK You didn't hear the mic drop? Bye.
TexChik · F
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SpudMuffin · 61-69, M
@TexChik I understand. It's tough when you realise you're no longer top dog.
TexChik · F
@SpudMuffin If there is a dog in the room, its gotta be you mr socialist brit. Face it, your media is no longer being paid to float propaganda, so the truth will come out. I realize you brits don't believe in freedom of speech, which is one reason we kicked you back across the pond.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Castenmas Might cause less harm that way.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@DonaldTrumpet You've missed the point. I've swallowed nothing of Elon's, but thanks for your helpful comment.
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK U WelCUMz HuNz

 
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