political cowards

i see johnson survived by the skin of his teeth last night last night . was this due to chief whip pressure or lack of conscience on some tory mp to do the right thing. johnson is mortal wounded can or will he survive to be prime minister at the next general election

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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M

I'd just like to go on record and say as an American, I don't try to force my biased opinion about British politics upon you.

...it would be nice if some of your countrymen would be inspired to do the same...not comment on American politics because you only know what your choice of biased media tells you about America.

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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M

@smiler2012 No that was complete honesty .

smiler2012 · 56-60

@SumKindaMunster 😆 will take as compared to some of the rude ignorant trumpsters we encounter on a daily basis

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M

@smiler2012 Ooooh see that's what I am talking about plonker..."trumpsters"🤨...tsk tsk....stupid git....

OldBrit · 61-69, M

Firstly... Who's the alternative? Problem us the landslide victory came on Johnson agenda of "Get Brexit Done" and "Levelling Up". Few alternatives that actually support that agenda well the second part especially. It is strange to live under the highest tax regime since pretty much WW2 and it be a Tory one and so many left wing policies in place (leveling up fund, furlough, energy profit levy etc).

Secondly Johnson is not noted for playing by the "accepted rules" so he'll only go kicking and screaming

smiler2012 · 56-60

@OldBrit rather as thatcher did in a way and that was good riddance . her cabinet stabbed her in the back big style . will johnson fall to the same fate as maybe more party gate revelations come to light

OldBrit · 61-69, M

@smiler2012 I don't see it as his cabinet is a selected group of sycophants. He's moved the grandees like Hunt, Davies etc onto the backbenchs. He isn't a keep your enemies close type of operator. So I can't see a cabinet rebellion as likely at all.
Backbench vote strikes might be most effective tool now. Make it impossible for him to implement more controversial policies like breaking the NI protocol. But they still need him to resign now until next June and with the hubris of the man I simply cannot see that as a likely outcome.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

It wasn't due to the Whips. They don't act on votes like this, and the voting was by ballot. (The news kept using the tautology, "secret ballot"!)

Previous prime ministers have survived such votes but been forced to resign eventually, so it's not unlikely he will have to follow suit.

smiler2012 · 56-60

@ArishMell johnson knows he is mortally wound stabbed in the back by his mps . he is a lame duck and hopefully in a matter of time they will find a successor

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@smiler2012 You could well be right, Sadly most of them say he'd actually succeeded in the serious matters of State. Only then to bring himself down with this affair.