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"Affectionate” insults—I don’t really do them.

I don’t call anyone the "n" word, I don’t call my friends "b*tches","h*es" or "c*nts". I didn’t grow up with that kind of thing. It feels like a disconnect to me. I heard it enough from enemies, I don’t [b]need[/b] it from so-called friends. 😞
I agree. Friendship and affection should be cause for elevation of the person, not diminishing them. As you say, the world supplies more than enough.

I [i]think[/i] it is a way of owning those epithets and extracting the sting.

I suppose my age has saved me from being on the receiving end, for the most part.
@Mamapolo2016 Yes. It’s like the (mistaken) premise by which some in my community think the "n" word can be sanitized. It [b]can’t[/b]; people are still using it as an insult, and we are still [b]hearing[/b] it as an insult. So it hasn’t lost any of its power. As long as those words are insults in [b]anyone’s[/b] mouth, I will never understand why anyone else would want to own them. 🙁
@bijouxbroussard How much better to make new words that mean affection and support and unity!
@Mamapolo2016 Wouldn’t [b]that[/b] be amazing ? And so much more productive…
Pfuzylogic · M
The minimum level of ethics requires your standard. People justify a lot of cruel behaviors by saying ”hey I am that way with my friends.”
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
It hits me kinda the same way. Though I have occasionally been called racial insults(kiddingly) by members of my own nationalities, it's.....kinda stupid. I (a white dude) was also called the N word a bunch of times half-goofingly, half-not by a black guy. Just seems like bad bad karma. You can joke all you want, but I'm uncomfortable with these names having been called out during violence against people.
@uncalled4 Exactement.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Neither friend nor foe will I use nasty nor slur words.

I fact I have had words with those that have on my own posts. I have even warned both sides a few times about such language on my own posts.

Elsewhere not much I can do about it.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
In my circle, I come from a very working class dockyard working family, c*nt was commonly a term of endearment. You'd do something silly and dad would laugh "You dozy c*nt". I was some age before I understood it was such an insult to others.
@OldBrit I honestly didn’t realize it wasn’t as dire an insult in the UK as it is here, where it’s really considered hateful. On EP I actually blocked people I saw using it, not knowing that the person so being called might not even have been offended. 😳
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard for me it would be determined by who and in what context
Piper · 61-69, F
With rare and specific exceptions, neither do I. Those rare exceptions though, have and never would include any racial slur...or "c*nt". I sort of [i]get[/i] the reasoning behind using and [b]owning[/b] a word to supposedly lessen the power of it to hurt and demean, but...the words are still ugly to me.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard And as a woman yours might NOT be? Of course not. Because you're a woman, eh?
@ChipmunkErnie In this instance perhaps you don’t understand because you can’t relate. And yes, there are some things I [b]don’t[/b] understand because perhaps I [b]can’t [/b] see it from a man’s point of view. I can admit that.
Piper · 61-69, F
@ChipmunkErnie During my going on 67 years of life, it has [i]always[/i] been a crude, vulgar, ugly word to use. The most insulting and crude word, used in a way to demean a woman. Until around four years, anyway, when I starting noticing it being used a lot more, and in different ways.
whisperingwillow · 36-40, F
I feel the same. It instantly makes me disconnect from them, whether I want to or not.
originnone · 61-69, M
Recently someone told me the "B" word was considered in this culture to be as bad as the "n" word. I don't think it's even close. When I was young, F*CK was the worst word you could say. Now it's like saying uh or hmmm
@originnone Yes, Indeed, though I don’t know why any woman would want herself equated with a female [b]dog[/b]. I’ve seen the other when some of the new posters arrived, even received a dm or two. That’s about sorting out the folks who have Stormfront.com among their other sites.
originnone · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard I had to look up Stormfront.com. I find it interesting that being anti-vax became a far right issue....
@originnone I personally think that the only reason the pandemic became politicized is because Trump encouraged it to be, by implying that it was a hoax rather than starting out working with the various health organizations who were trying to identify its source and stop it from spreading.
Someone has given you an affectionate insult recently? I'm so sorry, people need to watch their tongues at times. I've seen it too many times, whereas a little thought of what you are saying, recognizing another person, goes a long way.
@thewindupbirdchronicles Someone I liked used it as a broad greeting. I blocked them, but I think I’ll probably unblock them, they’re not a bad person.
It’s just not something I’m used to. 🙁
@bijouxbroussard Hard for me to reply upon the personal elements without seeing, of course. We can get sensitive over elements not directed towards ourselves, and each person is unique, learning in their own way, but as long as you feel you can find respect within the person you are talking of, I hope you can find that respect. I prefer an open world, and open heart, but if whoever they are says things you can't accept; don't.
bookerdana · M
I agree..when my Dad and I were having one of our many impromptu talks,this on slurs cursing and swearing,he said,When you're in the Navy everybody cusses...even the Chaplain tells you to get to blankety-blank services..then you come home and get re-civilized......
Canuckle · 51-55, M
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I understand, but at the same time the use of epithets that way does seem to be a pretty wide-spread thing. I sort of buy the old Lenny Bruce concept that if we use words, make them our own, they eventually lose their power to hurt. But if we try and ban them we keep re-enforcing their power. Our very act of reaction makes them powerful?

On the other hand, I find myself using curses and epithets these days that I never used in the past and think it's because the internet is so filled with them.
@ChipmunkErnie There are some words I never want to own. They were never mine [b]to[/b] own. And the fact that they still have the power to hurt is evidenced by them still being insults in other people’s mouths. 🙁
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard Which was the whole point of Bruce's rants -- IF the words have the power to hurt you, then they do own you.
@ChipmunkErnie Okay, perhaps in another 400 years, assuming folks in the KKK agree to stop using it, the "n" word will have no power. Right now, certain people can’t use it without risking the loss of jobs or teeth. That makes it pretty damn powerful. And the point I’m making is, it’s never been [b]my[/b] word, and it represents a lot of ugliness that can’t be undone. Personally I think black people who use it casually are foolish.
MeowsoliniReturns · 51-55, F
Which is why I love and respect you. Those things are so low brow.
MeowsoliniReturns · 51-55, F
@bijouxbroussard Not at all. I have never understood why African Americans or women would want to use these words to refer to one another. Especially when they fought so hard to be respected and treated as equals.
@MeowsoliniReturns [b]That’s[/b] it, exactly. And in both cases, it allows those who still use the terms as insults to feel more entitled to use them ("Look, they even call [b]each other[/b] that !") It’s self-defeating, imo. 🥺
MeowsoliniReturns · 51-55, F
@bijouxbroussard Exactly!
MeowsoliniReturns · 51-55, F
I completely agree. I can't stand it.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
I was never a fan either.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
I saw that post and I agree. It also felt very unnatural for her.

I honestly think she meant no harm by it but I had nothing to add on the post because I feel the same way that you do about that type of thing.
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I don't understand that tbh, I wouldn't want to be friends with people like that
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@bowman81 That’s a slightly different scenario, when a friend really messes up, calling them on it ("that was a really assh*le move !") perhaps isn’t unwarranted. But as a general greeting without anyone having done anything ("Hello, Assh*les !") [b]that[/b] would get old really fast (imo). 🙂

 
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