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I wonder how many anitvaxxers

Are antivaxxers because they have a strong hatred or fear of the actual shot.

I honestly believe this is the major reason people have been against vaccines due to childhood trauma of receiving shots as a child.

No one likes getting a shot but the pain is temporary compared to what you are being vacci ated against.

This post inspired by a commercial for a nasal flu vaccine that works like a nasal spray.
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gol979 · 46-50, M
I doubt it tbh. I am what you would call an "anti-vaxxer" (mis-nomer because im not or even want to stop anyone from injecting themselves with whatever they want).

The vast majority of people who dont want injections will have read the material supporting injections from big pharma and drs on the payroll but also read content that is counter narrative to the orthodoxy of big pharma.

And then came along the covid narrative that was so full of holes, contradictions and flat out lies its pushed a whole lot more people to start questioning the injection industry.
FoxyGoddess · 51-55, F
@gol979 I'm sorry you've been fooled by propaganda when there is so much science that completely debunks it. Science that doesn't come from "big pharma" but independent studies. One of the things about science is that it must be peer reviewed, meaning, the science must be retested to assure the outcome is the same. This is dine through a number of tests at differing times to assure the results are the same.

That is how science works.

Propaganda works with a statement "I don't like the thing", then goes out and finds all the circular logic to promote that statement. It is not peer reviewed or tested. It does not go through the rigors of science. In fact, propaganda itself can be considered a virus, as there is no cure outside of realizing you were fooled and are willing to understand the processes of how our vaccines are created.

Obviously, this comment isn't going to change your mind because that is the hold propaganda has. It doesn't allow you to see beyond what it has explained to you in circular ways that its errors are logical. But I do hope you eventually question your beliefs enough one day to be open minded into the idea that you were duped for people selling you suppliments and essential oils and other homeopathic variants that have no scientific backing watsoever except to part you from your money.
gol979 · 46-50, M
@FoxyGoddess you sure do know me better than i know myself.

And you are saying that what i am espousing has been "debunked". I havent said anything specific......but i can if you want?

A few questions though.....what was the ifr of covid, who is Kary Mullis and what did he say about PCR tests, what was the average age of death from covid and what did astrazenica have to do with their covid injection? (A few real easy and basic ones to start but im fairly sure they wont get answered)
FoxyGoddess · 51-55, F
@gol979 I literally don't care about what you've asked.

As for knowing what you are espousing, I've been following the anti-vax movement since 2009. I've pretty much heard all the propaganda. And yes, it all has been debunked. All of it. Period.

How long have you been "researching"?

ETA: Kary Mullis was a biochemist, who, ironically died of pneumonia. He won a noble prize for his research in DNA, which has nothing to do with Covid. 🤷‍♀ He died in 2019, before the Covid event.
gol979 · 46-50, M
@FoxyGoddess he is the inventor of the PCR test that was used to gather covid "cases" data despite kary mullis specifically stating it is not to be used for diagnosis because "it can detect anything" based on how many times the cycle was amplified. At 45 amplification the false positives for covid was 97%, basically fraudulent. (As you part answered that part).

And of course you dont want to engage with basic information such as ifr ℅ (0.007%), average age of death (81+) or that astrazenicas injection was pulled for inducing blood clots because it exposes that we were lied to on an epic scale.
FoxyGoddess · 51-55, F
@gol979 PCR was developed by Mullis in 1993. DNA research has advanced way beyond that. While Mullis may have said that the PCR was not to be used to diagnose only applies to his methodology. Science often takes methodology of others and uses it to modify it to see what other potentials it has. It may mean the PCR process Mullis created is not the same one they used. It may be more defined with other factors that allow them to determine what Mullis could not.

That is the joy of science. It isn't as strict as people want it to be. It is discovered, then perfected and made useful in other areas. Science is not all black or white. It is forever evolving and changing to work with new things learned and discovered.

Either way, you are just being combative at this point and not wanting to engage in honest discourse. I will no longer entertain you or your wrong think.
gol979 · 46-50, M
@FoxyGoddess "lock him up, he has had too much to think".

Fair enough, we are never going to agree and thats why we should always err on the side of principle and advocate "my body, my choice"