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I watched it so you don't have to

I'm referring to the new documentary Died Suddenly, about the deaths attributed to the COVID vaccine, by right-wing crank Stew Peters. The film opens with a montage of images associated with conspiracy theories - Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination, the moon landing, Bigfoot, and others, with a guy on TV asking "aren't there any conspiracy theories you believe in?" We then get a short explanation of Malthusian Theory, which says that a population increases exponentially while its food supply increases linearly, leading to an inevitable shortage if nothing changes. This includes Tom Hanks, Bill Gates, and other luminaries agreeing that the earth's population is out of control. So of course, "the elites" are looking for some way to reduce it - except no one says this explicitly. It's just clever editing.

We're then treated to a barrage of headlines about people who "died suddenly," followed by stories from embalmers, doctors, and others testifying to "something we've never seen before," how the vaccine wasn't tested and how information about it isn't available, videos of people keeling over for no reason - the implication is clear: the vaccine killed them.

Except it's not. There are three things required to demonstrate causation:

1. A significant activity - the action in question, in this case, a person getting vaccinated.

2. An adverse event - death or disability following #1.

3. A nexus connecting the two. Here's where the documentary fails to deliver. Correlation doesn't equal causation. I was vaccinated, and later that day, my car's bluetooth stopped working. Clearly, these two events weren't related other than the fact that they happened around the same time. Now, if someone conducted a study and found that there had been a spike in Bluetooth failures associated with car owners getting vaccinated, that would suggest a third factor somehow affecting both. The same holds true for the deaths, diseases, and stillbirths - what's missing is a regression analysis to eliminate any other factors. Are these also happening elsewhere, in Africa, Latin America, and parts of Asia where the vaccine wasn't available? The most rudimentary analysis beyond "A happened, then B happened, therefore A caused B" isn't explored.

The film doesn't explore any of this. We're treated to anecdotes and impressions in place of genuine research. We don't even see raw data; we're just assured by a string of very serious people that they're observing something. A real assessment would at the very least include a regression analysis to eliminate any unknown third factors. Instead, we see evil "elites" like Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Klaus Schwab, and George Soros with snippets suggesting (without coming out and saying) that the vaccine is a plot to reduce the world's population. What we don't get is any explanation of how the vaccine could be killing people, why some people supposedly die within days while others take months, or the mechanism whereby the vaccine causes the blood clots and other health effects that supposedly have skyrocketed.

The most glaring lacuna is why the vaccine exists at all. Anyone seeing this who wasn't aware of the COVID pandemic would conclude that people were getting vaccinated for no reason at all. COVID, and any possible effect it may have, isn't even mentioned. This isn't science; it's propaganda.

This presentation is going to be very effective with the film's target audience, most of whom have already been exposed to anti-vax propaganda and are primed to buy into the film's message without thinking about it critically. The production values are top-notch; clearly, for whoever made this, money was no object. It ends on the most emotionally manipulative note imaginable - babies! They're killing babies with this! And YOU will have to stand before God and explain why you did nothing. If the filmmakers wanted to encourage a few unstable individuals to carry out acts of stochastic terrorism, they may have succeeded by the time you read this.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Sadly, there are so many gullible people who are scientifically illiterate who will eat this up. I won't be surprised at all if people here on SW start using it as "proof" that the vaccine kills.
Aspirin is 400 times deadlier than the Covid vaccines
@gol979 says
i notice you gloss over the part from the embalmers who are saying that they are seeing never before seen blood clots
Wow, who knew embalmers studied the internal organs of the bodies they embalm??

Oh, wait, unless the body has already been autopsied, they DON'T!!! According to
https://www.legacy.com/advice/the-embalming-process-how-it-works/

Examining the organs and searching for clots? NOT PART OF THE EMBALMING PROCESS!!! They might see a few clots as they replace blood with fluid, but that's in no way a medical survey of clots! If an embalmer is looking at organs, it's because the body was ALREADY AUTOPSIED!! And autopsied bodies are NOT a randomly sampled subset. They are a specially selected subset!! Which means you can't draw conclusions about the general population from a specially selected subset during a pandemic!!!

Now let's see, what do other embalmers say??
Abnormal clots were found in COVID-19 victims "long before vaccinations were available," said licensed embalmer Monica Torres, of NXT Generation Mortuary Support in Phoenix, "and it is not uncommon to find dark blood clots in any deceased, not just COVID persons, who have been stored in refrigeration for a long period of time before embalming."

The National Funeral Directors Association, a U.S. professional organization, told PolitiFact that embalmers in its network have noticed similar abnormalities in COVID-related deaths, but among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

"It’s only anecdotal evidence, and there’s no scientific evidence to draw any conclusions," said Jessica Koth, director of public relations for the association.

In short, others in the funerary industry do NOT support the correlation of abnormal clots with the vaccine - THEY see a correlation with COVID!!!
gol979 · 41-45, M
You know my stance on covid/restrictions/injections......but i notice you gloss over the part from the embalmers who are saying that they are seeing never before seen blood clots.....and this is now a known effect from all brands of injection. Aztra zeneca and j and j even being pulled from circulation due to the risk of blood clots

We dont need stew peters and the like to point this out......its in the open
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@gol979 I stated no such thing about injections being spun. If you think the seatbelt analogy is "bovine", then you are being cowed.

More and more data is not coming in supporting significant risks to vaccination. However, more misinformation and disinformation does come in continuously, and some deliberately ignorant people believe it. That's really sad. People have died because of it, and will continue to die and suffer other major consequences as a result.

I will continue to take whatever safe vaccinations are needed to help protect me. Covid, flu, and pneumonia vaccinations have all been taken in the past two months.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@windinhishair again, you go for it. Just leave others alone
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@gol979 As long as they don't pose a health risk to others, or spread disinformation on verifiable facts.
In the interest of nipping another false claim in the bud, some anti-vaxxers are spreading the lie that FIFA footballers are dying at a higher rate after vaccination.

This article, "FIFA Sudden Death Registry (FIFA-SDR): a prospective, observational study of sudden death in worldwide football from 2014 to 2018"
says 617 FIFA players died of SCD within an hour of playing over a 5 year period = 123 per year (2014-2018).
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/56/2/80

And this article says about 108 died in 2021 - a reduction in the FIFA death rate after vaccination!!
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport/fact-check-list-of-108-fifa-soccer-players-is-not-proof-of-a-common-link-between-covid-19-vaccines-and-athlete-deaths-idUSL1N2T81NY

Note: I'm making no statistical claims about the drop in FIFA deaths during the 2021 vaccination year; merely pointing out how wrong the anti-vaxxers got it.
@ElwoodBlues They're not above lying if it helps their argument. I have no way of knowing if the "embalmers" shown liberally in this film aren't just actors, and the gigantic rubbery clots that are supposedly being extracted from people aren't some tropical disease having nothing to do with either COVID or the vaccine.

All I can do is comment on the film as presented. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a complete fabrication. It's very light on actual statistics, let alone analysis.
JustNik · 51-55, F
I clearly remember the evolution of thinking “wow, we need to do a better job of educating people” to the horrific realization that this many people had actually redefined “fact” to mean only those things that justify their outrage. 😞
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Money no object in making this propaganda, as you say, but I wonder who they are and why they are making it.

They are devious, but one thing I think they may be exploiting is a generally low public and journalistic understanding of simple statistics, probability and the important difference between hazard and risk,

It's almost as if these anti-vaccination campaigners want exactly what they accuse their imagined cabal of wanting - letting infectious diseases let rip. The difficult bit is working out their motives, which I doubt they would state.
Fairydust · F
Stew peters Is controlled opposition, a messenger for them.

Died suddenly is from a satanists, but the message they are giving is true.
They have to tell us what they are doing.
@Fairydust Stew Peters claims to be a "God-loving follower of Jesus Christ." He may be many things, but he's not a Satanist.

The movie is unadulterated BS.
Fairydust · F
@LeopoldBloom

Just because someone says they are god loving, doesn’t mean anything these days.

They use symbols all the time.

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@Fairydust Oh, I agree. If Jesus was around, people like Peters calling themselves Christians would only confuse him.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
Keep talking this cerebrally and you'll have to beat the smart women off with a stick
@DearAmbellina2113 Thanks, but I'm married and not here for that.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@LeopoldBloom I wasn't hitting on you, sorry. Just trying to compliment your writing style.
@DearAmbellina2113 I know. I appreciate it. I thought of putting this on Medium but didn't want my real name attached to it. Besides, Forbes already has a good review.
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@MarmeeMarch It's a review of a video on Rumble. We know you people hate reading, so just watch the video and have the propaganda spoon-fed to you. You're the intended audience anyway.

 
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