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Get Your Covid Injection to Protect Granny Selfish

And surprise, surprise.....Pfizer knew all along it didnt protect granny. Pfizer executive: "at the time of introduction the vaccine had NEVER been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus" to the EU.

This opens a huge can of worms (many already knew of the bogus efficacy). Injection ID now was clearly about control/surveillance. The line "get it done for others more vulnerable" now is defunct and the mandatory injections were already morally reprehensible but even more so after this statement.

We have been lied to on an epic scale. Time for some to admit this was so and repair the division it has sown
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[quote]We have been lied to on an epic scale. [/quote]

The definition of lying is definitely not "I don't understand what I've been told so I'm gonna blame the meanies who gave me facts that my brain could not handle"

Also:
[quote]Joint Statement from the International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities and World Health Organization:
17 May 2022 Statement

Vaccination has been shown to contribute to reducing deaths and severe illness from COVID-19, and to [b]reduce the transmission of COVID-19[/b]. Vaccinating as many people as possible and [b]reducing the spread of disease is important. [/b]Vaccination of a significant proportion of the population also [b]protects vulnerable people, including those who cannot receive vaccines, or the small proportion of people who might remain at risk of infection after vaccination. Failure to vaccinate widely also enables continued circulation of the virus and the generation of variants, including some that may pose a greater risk. [/b]Widespread vaccination has contributed to fewer people getting sick and being hospitalised, ultimately alleviating the burden of COVID-19 on healthcare systems. It has also helped allow the move back to normal societal functioning and the re-opening of economies.[/quote]
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SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User Childish strawman response. The point being made isn't that they didn't help the sick and vulnerable, the point is people were strongly encouraged, or even pressured to get the vaccine and the reasons behind why weren't compelling or accurate. It was a political decision, not a medical one.
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@SumKindaMunster [quote]the reasons behind why weren't compelling or accurate[/quote]

Is reading hard for you? The point of that statement was that today, in 2022, we [b]know[/b] that those initial claims were accurate.
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User Oh please that's generic boilerplate that could be said about anything, including homeopathic remedies. It's a general statement about vaccines when viewed at that high level, of course they are beneficial. Was there enough benefit to force a mandate, or the obvious propaganda campaign that was waged trying to convince everyone to get vaccinated?

No, no there was not and I believe that is the point being made here.

That's not the point of the original post, and it's obviously not your point to respond relevantly and genuinely to the subject at hand.
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@SW-User people want to politicize science. boosters are a good idea to reduce the symptoms .

no one is forced
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@SumKindaMunster And yet that general statement comes with a proper source. The guy who made that post just mentions that "Pfizer executive" said some random stuff. Which executive? Where is the source? I did not see you doubting that. Just goes to show that people are willing to believe anything as long as it supports what THEY think is correct.
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@SW-User people [b]who don't understand science but think that they do[/b] want to politicise science. Yes.
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User What's also interesting is how you chose to respond to me more relevantly and without childish insults as the conversation went on.

[quote]The guy who made that post just mentions that "Pfizer executive" said some random stuff. Which executive? Where is the source[/quote]

Why didn't you ask these questions from the get go?

[quote] did not see you doubting that.[/quote]

So I needed to respond to every point made by the original poster for you to be satisfied? I made my point, backed it up and after being snotty and dismissive, now you want to challenge me on every little thing?

Grow up, I'm bored with this kind of discourse.
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@SumKindaMunster Why would I ask these questions before? Does asking them now change something for you? Go on and use that as an excuse to not answer my question. You are the one who decided to reply to my comment and I'm just pointing out that you clearly chose to doubt an official source and not a guy claiming that a "Pfizer executive" said... something.
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User [quote]Why would I ask these questions before? Does asking them now change something for you?[/quote]

Well you asked me and I thought they were better asked of the original poster since they were his words. You didn't and I pointed it out to you as being the best way to find answers to your questions.

[quote]You are the one who decided to reply to my comment and I'm just pointing out that you clearly chose to doubt an official source [/quote]

I did reply to you and I made my reasoning clear from my first comment.

I didn't "doubt" the official source, I commented that the very vague and generic way it was formed made it useless when it comes to truly deciding the effectiveness of boosters and whether or not one should consider getting them.

It's no wonder the original poster didn't respond, you aren't conducting yourself sincerely or genuinely.
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@SumKindaMunster You make no sense. You say one thing, you do not know how to support your initial statement and so then you say another thing, hoping that you're going to fool people. But you literally make no sense.

[quote]I commented that the very vague and generic way it was formed made it useless when it comes to truly deciding the effectiveness of boosters[/quote]

The effectiveness of boosters? Neither I nor the OP talked about boosters. Neither did you, you talked about the mandate. So how was your initial response, since this is what you're saying it was about, even relevant? Btw, in case scrolling is just as hard as reading, this was your initial comment:

[quote]Childish strawman response. The point being made isn't that they didn't help the sick and vulnerable, the point is people were strongly encouraged, or even pressured to get the vaccine and the reasons behind why weren't compelling or accurate. It was a political decision, not a medical one.[/quote]

So, yes. I'm the one who is not "conducting myself sincerely or genuinely".
The reason the OP did not reply was the lack of arguments and/or common sense. The only thing different in your case is that, due to that lack, you cannot even see how random your responses are.
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User I'm sorry you don't understand or have chosen to be purposefully obstinate. In reviewing the conversation, it seems pretty clear to me and its interesting that you are still engaging if you can't understand what I am saying.

I would speculate you don't agree with me and are being stubborn as you don't really have anything of relevance to say.

I'm not going to be repeating myself. Please let me know if there is anything else before I move on with my day.
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@SumKindaMunster [quote]you don't really have anything of relevance to say.[/quote]

"Hello kettle..."
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User Sorry my replies and comments on this subject touched a nerve.

However, this is entirely a "you" problem.

Take care.
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@SumKindaMunster You're just funny, that's all.
The funniest part is that you ARE the joke.
Have a good day.
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User I'll be sure to do that. Any other comments you want to make in a desperate but vain attempt to pretend your aren't upset or affected by your interactions with me?
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@SumKindaMunster No, thank you. Have a nice day.
SumKindaMunster51-55, M
@SW-User You as well.