2 Dose vaccine, or Booster?

@Zonuss Actually, they both work. Not perfectly, but quite well.

In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.

In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.

This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.

Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.

Details and links at https://similarworlds.com/disease-illness/vaccines/4268857-Covid-Vaccine-effectiveness-data-from-the-US-2021

@ElwoodBlues No they don't.
We're just now immune to it mostly. We've adapted to the virus.
Strain has weakened

@Zonuss You are completely ignoring all the data!

The data says in 2021 the unvaxxed in the US died at 15X the rate of the vaxxed per capita!

That sure looks like protection to me!!!

@ElwoodBlues You are so off and out of touch with the real world. Let alone unperceptive. The vaccination does not work. Not all cases are even on record. So this is inconclusive at best.

@Zonuss I'd love to see where you get your data from. Can you share your source with us?

Developed world nations are pretty good at recording deaths. Are you suggesting there are hundreds of thousands of deaths among the vaccinated that have been hidden somehow?

@ElwoodBlues Are you aware of what's going on in the world ??
Do you even know how many people who have had COVID and have not even been documented 🙂

@Zonuss I'm concentrating on the population of the US where we have good records of vaccination and of death. The health of these 330 million people is highly predictive of the health of myself and my family. Why should I worry about less predictive groups??

AND. Are you suggesting there are hundreds of thousands of deaths among the vaccinated that have been hidden somehow?

@ElwoodBlues Are you confused sir.
Can you read plain English. 🙂
There are millions of people here in the United States that have had the virus and it has not even been documented. 🙂

@Zonuss I am reporting death numbers. Deaths are well documented. Is this what has you confused? Just in case you can read plain English, I'll post it again:

In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.

@ElwoodBlues The death numbers are questionable at best. Many hospitals pulled the plug on people who were already dealing with cancer and diabetes. Not to mention the other illnesses unaccounted for . Long story. There are millions who have had the virus and have not been vaccinated. Most of them lived. You are wrong. 🙂

@Zonuss So you're suggesting that other forms of death were classified as Covid? Is that the basis of your theory?

Nothing I've said contradicts that.

@ElwoodBlues It's not a theory. It's a fact. I know because I have friends in the medical field. Number two many have in spite of not being vaccinated at all.
You really need to get out from under your rock and off the computer sir.😂

@Zonuss So you're saying that other forms of death were mis-classified as Covid. I've seen that claim before, and it may be true in a very small number of cases. But nowhere near enough to account for all the excess deaths we've had.

Let's take a look at the top ten causes of death in the US in 2020, BEFORE the vaccine. Here in the table are US death numbers for the top ten causes of death for six years ending in 2020. Notice how there are 20% more deaths in 2020 than the average of the previous five years? Doing the math, that's 500,000 excess deaths in 2020.

Notice how, in 2020, 345,000 of those 500,000 excess deaths are classified as Covid? Notice how almost all causes of death rose in 2020, including cancer & heart disease?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

If there's any validity to the claim that lots of deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? The evidence says mis-classification is a red herring.

@ElwoodBlues Not misclassified. Purposely classified. You are clueless.🫑😂😂

@ElwoodBlues The sad part is that I sense you do not believe everything that the government has told you.
You're not that stupid. I hope not. 🙂

@Zonuss What do you know about how death statistics are collated? Fraudulently filing large numbers of deaths certificates would require THOUSANDS of city & county medical examiners to collude to file fake death reports.

Do you honestly believe in a GiAnTt CoNsPiRaCy among most of the nation's pathologists and medical examiners? A GiAnTt CoNsPiRaCy with no leakers and no whistleblowers? You're not that stupid. I hope not. 🙂

@ElwoodBlues I take the doctors and nurses I've talked to word. Not yours.
Thank you. 🙂

@Zonuss So you DO believe in a GiAnTt CoNsPiRaCy among most of the nation's pathologists and medical examiners to fake the details on death certificates??

How many falsified death certificates have your doctor & nurse friends seen?

BTW, what you're using here is basically the dippyjoe defense, "I've got a friend who says ..." as a way of ignoring all the data.

@ElwoodBlues Your data is false.
I go by what the medical experts who actually work in the hospitals and nursing homes have given me.
Not the media. Not you either. You are off. Way off. 🙂

@Zonuss I go by what medical experts publish in refereed journals, not the media. If my data is false, why can't you point me to true data??