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How exactly do you interpret this exact public quote from Bill Gates?

[b]Does it seem sinister to you? or just more hot air with no meaning. What have vaccines to do with this?[/b]

graphite · 61-69, M
Whatever this guy recommends, we should do the opposite.
Gates is one of the richest and most evil criminals in the world.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Whether it genuinely is from Gates or from someone seeking to undermine him, it's certainly a strange, disturbing text if taken at face value.

Apply a little logic though.

I do not know Bill Gates' personal opinions on population, public health, etc; and I am not interested in people wanting me to believe what they think he believes. I am interested only in what he says, and I do not know what that is. So in a sense I am neutral about him; as well being well away from all the divisive, pseudo-political bickering about disease and vaccinations in countries like Brazil and the USA.

There are, allegedly, people out to destroy Gates' reputation (from raw jealousy?); but if that message is genuine, I am puzzled by it. What does he really mean? Why is his name bracketed by the Pfizer trader-mark?

Genuine health care, especially in reproductive matters, can and should head off a future nightmare of over-population in the face of dwindling resources and the possible results of climate change.

What though, has that do with "vaccination" whose purpose is to try to protect the living against Nature's attempts to reduce their numbers? Nothing at all, and the implied endorsement by a leading vaccines manufacturer makes so little sense that I think both that and the quote itself, are lies; or at least are grossly out of their original context.

By whom, though?

I wonder if what you have found there is something from one of those anonymous, determinedly sociopathic, anti-health, anti-vaccination groups or individuals the Covid pandemic unearthed, trying to use Bill Gates and Pfizer as its/ his/ her weapons.

The best thing for material like that is for everyone to ignore it - at least until the Internet operators have as they should, traced and exposed its source so we will know if the real opinions of those named; or something much darker, and frankly, deeply cowardly.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
And here is the full quote, debunking your Meme.
Gates quote was part of a speach, on Global Warning and linking lower infant mortality rates, to falling birth rates and by extension, lower global population, leading to lower human impact on climate change.
"Themisinterpretationstems froma commentGatesmadeduringa TED talk in 2010 aboutmethodsforreducingthe world’s carbon emissions to zero (here).Crucially, one of the factors pushing carbon emissions to an unsustainable level is population growth.

“First, we’ve got population,” he said during the talkorganized by TED, anon-profitorganization devoted to spreading ideas.“The world today has 6.8 billion people.That’sheaded up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3.”

However, Gateswas not suggesting the global population should be killed off using vaccines.He isinsteadsayingthat improving public health using vaccinationscanreduce unsustainable population growth in the future – and with it, lower carbon emissions.

The Microsoft co-founderhas long been a proponent of population control to target the roots of poverty and unrest(here).

In 2011, hetold Forbes magazine that when he first entered public health it was to focus on contraception (here).

When he later saw data suggesting that when mortality rates fall, so, too, do birth rates, Gates shifted his focus from preventing births to saving people already alive.

“We moved pretty heavily into vaccines once we understoodthat,” he told Forbes."
😷
WalterF · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman His main motivation, as he let slip in a TV interview, was the 20:1 return on vaccines (the best investment in the health area, as he said). In other words, he's primarily in it for the money.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@WalterF So there is no "sinister" motive. Just pure profit. In that case maybe he should have invested in diseases of the Rich, instead of the one no one else was worried about, because all it did was keep the third world poor.
I doubt that I like Gates any more than you do. But he saw a GLOBAL need where his money was not going to disappear into the pockets of the rich and that would help a third of the worlds population, who happen to be the poorest and least able to help themselves. I'm not prepared to declaring him world Emperor for it. But money is not a motivator for him at this point. And he is making a difference for good..😷
That quote was an eye opener. And he said it one billion people ago. Looks like his dream may become reality as birth rates are dropping. I wonder how many young people will become sterile do to the jab?
Carissimi · 70-79, F
What the bloody hell!!! First, thanks for this because I do like to have the facts before I say something. Second: Zero CO2? If we get to zero, we will all be dead, including animals, trees, basically the planet will die. Did I ever say that these “people” may not be human? Outlandish, but why would any humans want to get to zero CO2, and kill everything on the planet. They would die as well, unless of course, they weren’t human. Just a thought. Third: A logical mind would assume that life giving vaccines, healthcare, and reproductive health would cause an increase in population, not a decrease, so his words must mean the opposite, as in vaccines that harm or kill, healthcare that does not help us, and reproductive health by sterilization, which is happening now with our children who have been brainwashed into thinking they are trans. These “people” are not only disturbing, but a mystery because unless they have a death wish, getting to zero CO2, will have them dead too. That makes no sense. Even the worst tyrant/killers in history wanted to survive and have power over the people, but they didn’t want the whole planet dead. @BizSuitStacy
@Carissimi The little math equation to get to zero CO2. All of the factors is entirely dependent upon [b][i]the number of people[/i][/b]. So, the [b][i]only[/i][/b] way to get to zero using, or at least approach zero, is for the number of people to approach to zero.

Hmmm.

And...as you rightly point out...he plans to accomplish this via healthcare, vaccines and reproductive care. Historically, these factors have led to the human race actually living longer, and actually being more prolific.

Weird, huh?
Carissimi · 70-79, F
Very weird. No carbon, no life. @BizSuitStacy
MasterLee · 56-60, M
He is killing off populations with 'vaccines'
InHeaven · F
Depopulation. I posted the video where he said that out of his mouth the sheeple here blamed me for “cutting something out of context .” Who ever wants to remain in denial, will remain no matter what
Iwillwait · M
@InHeaven You have always been correct in your statements of concerns.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Depopulation.
He should do his part in population control by blowing his own brains out.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@WalterF Thankyou!
WalterF · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Appalling behaviour, from someone who presumably considers himself an adult
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@WalterF Yes, but he's not the only one. It is sad that some are unable to express disagreeing with others without merely descending into foul abuse.
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
I think he means exactly what he said.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
What exactly has this man done [i]wrong[/i]?

He's made himself very rich by his own technical and business acumen in a country that worships doing just that.

He may or may not have opinions with which some disagree _ I do not know and won't unless I hear or read what are genuinely his own words and I can decide to agree or disagree in whole or in part.

Has he actually [i]done anything genuinely wrong[/i] - anything illegal for which he should of course be brought to account.?

Or are we just seeing raw jealousy for his being very successful by the American definition of "success" (= wealth)?
WalterF · 70-79, M
@ArishMell These words were his, I heard them myself in a clip from a TV interview.

One must judge him on the basis of what he has done. When he said that vaccines were the best health investment, at a return of 20:1, and that these present years are the "decade of the vaccine", and when one considers that he has zero medical qualifications and yet is apparently sen as the world's "vaccine tsar", one has to wonder whether his zeal for vaccinating the world is more focused on filling his own already-overflowing coffers than on bringing health and longevity to the populations of Africa and the rest of the world.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@WalterF Oh, I don't doubt his greed and I don't like some of Microsoft's business methods and its near-universal monopoly; but I don't take his opinions as seriously as some would wish.

He's entitled to express them, but I don't necessarily agree with them, especially if as you point out, they are based on ignorance or dubious motives. He hasn't actually done anything wrong though; and I don't suppose for one minute he's the only one making a lot of money from shares in pharmaceutical companies. Those are commercial businesses after all, though I would object if their prices or business models are unfair.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Sinister…and 10-15 per cent is only the beginning with these Hivites
Carissimi · 70-79, F
How do we know this is genuine? We know he wants depopulation, but whether he said this I don’t know. There is no source.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
Thanks. I’ve seen the latter one. I’ll watch the first one. @PhoenixPhail
@Carissimi it was on a Ted talk series 8-10 years ago. It was on for a fair while and in the last two years, that video has disappeared online. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I’ve seen it. It’s legit. @AwakeningConfession221122
LookingIn · M
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-gates-vaccine-idUSL1N2MF1L8

Fake news
WalterF · 70-79, M
@LookingIn You mean you still believe in the "fact-checkers?" (a new species we never ever had till 2020) - Even though, as Lord Zucko was forced to admit, they're only giving their opinions - and of course their opinions will conform to what their generous funders want them to say
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@WalterF Isn't Reuters that outfit that keeps filming dead bodies with itchy noses? About the time I believe anything any fact checker says is about the time I check myself into a mental hospital. One would have to have mental issues to believe any of that nonsense.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
We could lower it even more if we just gave the NRA their wish and let every school kid carry a gun.
Slade · 56-60, M
@Thevy29 ‘tard
Iwillwait · M
Sounds like he's being totally open and honest about his calculations of what can be achieved, should we "Stay the course."
doong · 56-60, M
We should keep cracking MS. Office and MS. windows and all MS software
stop paying them any sh!t
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
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