Mandates or Choice?

@kodiac The first few statements you made are more of less factual. However, you have failed to put them in context. The chances of dying of covid is much, much higher if you are unvaccinated than if you have the vaccination. Fact. The chances of being hospitalized with covid are much, much higher if you are unvaccinated than if you are vaccinated. Fact. The chances of developing long-term covid are much, much higher if you are unvaccinated than if you are vaccinated. Fact. So by not being vaccinated, you run a much higher risk of negative impacts. Fact. It is the furthest thing from a toss-up you can get.

The level of antibodies has been studied in unvaccinated people to see if they have higher levels from having had covid than those who are vaccinated. They don't. Fact. Even people who have had covid can lower their risk going forward by getting a vaccination. Fact.

There just are no two ways about it. Smart people who value their lives will get vaccinated, unless they have a medical condition that precludes it. And we owe those people a safer world so they don't contract it.

@windinhishair Find a vacine that works I'll be first in line

@kodiac The Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are proven to be effective and safe. You could take any of those, though I know you won't be first in line or even in line at all.

@windinhishair no i won't because they don't work .When.the polio vacines came out did people still get polio? Did the vacine eradicate the virus? Vaxed people still get and die from covid and the people pushing it say up front it won't eradicate the virus. All it is is an experimental drug to reduce symptoms .

@kodiac The vaccines do work and do significantly reduce adverse covid outcomes, including death, but you are free to ignore facts and science and not get one. You can also give up driving because you could die of a car crash and stay inside so you aren't struck by lightning and stop eating and drinking because sometimes food and watch is contaminated. Best of luck to you.

@windinhishair It's not a vacine end of story.You want to force me to get something that might kill me and justify that by saying it's to protect you? No thanks

@kodiac I'm not sure why you refuse to call a vaccine a vaccine, but it makes sense that you would refuse to make smart decisions and to gamble with your life. Good luck, and I hope you make better decisions in the future.

@windinhishair Read the definition of the word. I know you choose to ignore the word immunity in there or twist it this experimental drug admits it doesn't provide immunity. It's not a vacine

@kodiac Immunoogists call it a vaccine. Virologists call it a vaccine. The developers of the vaccine correctly call it a vaccine. I trust their judgment far more than yours. Other vaccines don't provide full immunity either, such as the measles, rubella, and mumps vaccines. You're wrong, and it doesn't really matter what you call it. It still is safe and effective and saving millions of lives. Thank God we have vaccines for covid that smart people around the world are taking and benefitting from.

@windinhishair I'll stick with the dictionary. You did what you allways do deflected away from what the dictionary says becsuse you know I'm right.

@kodiac You did what you always do--make dumb decisions based on misinformation and misinterpretation. I'll go with what the experts call a vaccine, that was developed as a vaccine, works like a vaccine, and is delivered like a vaccine. You can go with your uneducated guess with the dictionary. Good luck.

@windinhishair Vacine equals immunity end of story

@kodiac I take it that you weren't immunized for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, tetanus, etc. because none of those are vaccines according to your "definition". How far did you go with home schooling since you weren't able to go to public schools without being vaccinated?

@windinhishair Just like you want it to be i got those because i had no choice

@kodiac So you did get them? That was a choice. You could have chosen not to. But just like covid, those were safe and effective vaccines and necessary for public health. The situations are the same.

@windinhishair Don't know where you are but here kids do not get a choice.

@kodiac Were you held down against your will and innoculated? Or are you referring to requirements to be innoculated against contagious diseases before you can go to school? If you go to school you have to have them, the same way you have to have the covid vaccine before you can use certain modes of transportation or visit certain areas.

@windinhishair Yes i was held down

@kodiac Were you tied down with restraints and injected against your will while screaming at the top of your lungs to avoid the evil jabs?

@windinhishair I keep answering ,you keep asking the same questions .

@kodiac So you weren't forced. Got it. You just didn't protest at the time. Well, now you know never to get an injection of any kind, at any time, for any reason, because you have the dictionary to protect you from disease.

@windinhishair How many different ways do I have to say it? Yes i was forced. How you can't understand that makes me wonder about your mental stability. Why does it bother you so much ? I couldn't care less if you got the shot ,i don't spend hours ragging on you about it .

@kodiac Use that dictionary wisely in your health care decisions. No need for the advice of medical professionals.

@windinhishair Sure as hell no need for advice from you. People like you helped me make my decision and guess what it's none of your business. I already had covid and there is this crazy ldea that it gives me immunity of course you'll say no but it's at least as good as what you got from the shots .What are you up to now 3 4 shots?.