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Mandates or Choice?

Has anyone who agreed with covid injection mandates changed their minds? Has anyone who agreed with withdrawing medical care from people that didnt get injection ("its your choice, have the injection or face the consequences of your choice") changed their minds?
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
I have always been for individual choice. If the vax can be shown to be safe and effective then you should be free to take them. However that is a mighty big if. The vaxes have not been properly tested for safety or efficacy which means that those who are taking the injections have no idea if they are taking safe effective vaxes or not. However as time has moved on it is becoming evident beyond doubt that the vaxes are not safe nor are they effective. As I posted earlier on twitter someone asked if the vax was safe. 1500 replies ALL said that they knew someone who was injured or killed by the vax. Most responders were listing 3 or 4 known injuries and death. No one should be forced or mandated to take such a death jab. NO ONE!
@hippyjoe1955 Actually, the data shows high levels of both safety and efficacy.

In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.

In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.

This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.

Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.

For sources & discussion, click here:
https://similarworlds.com/disease-illness/vaccines/4268857-Covid-Vaccine-effectiveness-data-from-the-US-2021
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues If you believe the official narrative you are to pig ignorant to even debate. Everyone except you knows at least one person who has had some adverse reaction to the vax. I know of 4 deaths. Traditionally vaxes get pulled after 5 deaths during the trial. Pfizer's own data shows many deaths during its trial phase. Not sure why you want to believe what you do but your belief is and act of will not science.
@hippyjoe1955
Everyone except you knows at least one person who has had some adverse reaction to the vax.
DEAD WRONG!! Everyone I know had AT LEAST a sore arm for a day or two after the mRNA vaccine! Some were even tired for a day!!

Pfizer's own data shows many deaths during its trial phase.
Why can't you ever provide a single source for any of your outrageous claims? You say your claims are based on science, but you ALWAYS refuse to reveal the alleged science behind them.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Huh. Yesterday I was on a twitter feed that asked the simple question "Do you know someone who was injured by the vax. 1500 responses all saying they knew several people injured by the vax a goodly number mentioned more than one injury and a very surprising number saying that they knew of several deaths from the vax. It is a rare day that I don't hear of someone else dying from the vax. You on the other hand seem to be the oblivious one. Very strange. Oh well I will let you dwell in your ignorance.
@hippyjoe1955 Well then why don't you link us to that alleged twitter poll so we can judge for ourselves? Or did you pull that claim out of some dark orifice too?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues With you? Seriously? You would deny the vax was the cause of your own death! you are a true believer. No evidence will ever change your mind.
@hippyjoe1955
Just as I thought - the alleged twitter poll was another lie.

It's cute, though, that you consider twitter the best source of medical information. Idiotic, but cute.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues There are none so blind as those who will not see. Your willful blindness does not cause me to want to post any factual evidence. You will simply deny it. Did you ever look at the Pfizer data? Of course not. You are willfully blind.
@hippyjoe1955 You refuse to show ANYONE your alleged evidence! You'll spend an HOUR manufacturing excuses, and pretend that's better than pasting a link. It's only better if your original claim is a lie, LOL!!!

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Go find the Pfizer data. Your job not mine.
@hippyjoe1955 I found it. It ain't what you say it is.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So you read all 50,000 pages already? Nice try moron.
@hippyjoe1955 Neither did you! Nice try moron.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues did you find the 9 pages of side effects? I did!
@hippyjoe1955 That document was only several dozen pages. Admit it, 50,000 pages is your newest lie!!

Did you know that EVERY CDC phase III drug trial needs to look for those 9 pages of side effects? Just because Pfizer was required to look for them doesn't mean they found them all, idiot!!

You found a document that you OBVIOUSLY didn't understand! Now you refuse to link to it because you can't defend your outlandish claims about it!!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Then you are looking at some different documents than me. There are 50,000 pages. 9 of which list the adverse reactions including death.
@hippyjoe1955
Then you are looking at some different documents
OK, then link me to your document, LOL!!!
You can't because it doesn't exist, ROTFL!!!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Go find it yourself. Your choice. Not my problem. You choose to remain ignorant. Your problem.
@hippyjoe1955 I found it. It ain't what you say it is.

And why don't you link us to that alleged twitter poll so we can judge for ourselves? Or did you pull that claim out of some dark orifice too?

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@hippyjoe1955 I found it. You lied about it. So stupid you don't know when to stop lying, LOL!!!

And I predicted this. Two hours ago I wrote: You'll spend an HOUR manufacturing excuses, and pretend that's better than pasting a link. It's only better if your original claim is a lie, LOL!!!

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So you read all 50,000 pages? Not likely. As for lying the only one spreading false information is you. You can't even run a search engine!!!!
@ElwoodBlues I found it. It ain't what you say it is.