Mandates or Choice?

Has anyone who agreed with covid injection mandates changed their minds? Has anyone who agreed with withdrawing medical care from people that didnt get injection ("its your choice, have the injection or face the consequences of your choice") changed their minds?

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Punches · 46-50, F

I tell you where they screwed up with their whole vaccination game. Two big mistakes -

They were wanting to mandate weekly covid tests for unvaccinated workers at places with 100+ employees. Most places with that many in one shop are big corporations like walmart. Big companies did not want to pay for that mess nor have a bunch of people out for several days at a time.
We know companies HATE for employees to use an excuse like sickness for missing work.

The second is they kept wanting to lower the age of qualification for this experimental shot. People got real antsy at the thought of their small children having to take it. Even some of the hardcore covid vaxxers had to say, "Hold on, wait a minute."

So to answer the question - yes some pro-mandate people changed their minds about the time it was announced that their small children could get this poisonous shot.
Adults subject themselves to dangers that they would never subject their kids to.

ElwoodBlues · M

@Punches

this experimental shot

WRONG! Pfizer got FULL authorization in Aug 2021. It has not been experimental for over seven months! Please try to update your talking points in a more timely manner!!

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e2.htm

Punches · 46-50, F

@ElwoodBlues it might be approved but it's still experimental. And you want to talk about wrong pretty much everything you post is wrong.

ElwoodBlues · M

@Punches Tell me what's wrong with the following:

Here in the table are US death numbers for the top ten causes of death for six years ending in 2020. Notice how there are 20% more deaths in 2020 than the average of the previous five years? Doing the math, that's 500,000 excess deaths in 2020.

Notice how, in 2020, 345,000 of those 500,000 excess deaths are classified as Covid? Notice how almost all causes of death rose in 2020, including cancer & heart disease?

If there's any validity to the claim that lots of deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? The evidence says mis-classification is a red herring.

UPDATE:

@Punches All you have is lies. SAD!!

Punches · 46-50, F

@ElwoodBlues that is wrong and the chart is fake!

ElwoodBlues · M

@Punches

that is wrong and the chart is fake!

No doubt you have better data that would lead to different conclusions, but you just don't feel like sharing your superior data. Riiiiiiight.