sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
No more ironic than the fact that those who brought the suit will now try to gerrymander to have majority white districts. At least the Civil Rights Act measure that SCOTUS just threw out was trying to correct decades of Jim Crow gerrymandering, and had some moral high ground.
But IMO gerrymandering for any political advantage should be Un-Constitutional as it is antithetical to representative government. How can it be representational of communities with tortured districts weaving like snakes through portions of communities and across totally disparate parts of a state just in order to gain political advantage for a political party, not a community? Districts should be adjusted only every 10 years after the census, be done only by a non-partisan commission, with established guidelines that all factors are to be ignored except balancing total population and natural geographic boundaries.
But IMO gerrymandering for any political advantage should be Un-Constitutional as it is antithetical to representative government. How can it be representational of communities with tortured districts weaving like snakes through portions of communities and across totally disparate parts of a state just in order to gain political advantage for a political party, not a community? Districts should be adjusted only every 10 years after the census, be done only by a non-partisan commission, with established guidelines that all factors are to be ignored except balancing total population and natural geographic boundaries.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@dancingtongue
What representative government? We have a war criminal in the White House who doesn't give a damn for the American financial situation.
But IMO gerrymandering for any political advantage should be Un-Constitutional as it is antithetical to representative government.
What representative government? We have a war criminal in the White House who doesn't give a damn for the American financial situation.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@sree251 Exactly, and largely as a result of gerrymandering by political parties and ideologues on both ends of the political spectrum. Representational government as envisioned by our forefathers before the invention of political parties, which Jefferson called a "necessary evil" -- one of the great oxymorons in history.
GoFish ·
yeah bs
Bumbles · 56-60, M
You might want to look up slavery, the civil war, the KKK, lynching, the failure of reconstruction, segregation, the daughters of the confederacy, the myth of the lost cause, the glorification of the Confederacy in the 21st Century, MAGA paramilitary groups, neo-Nazis, and your soul.
Northwest · M
Think about it.
I did. You are a racist, for completely ignoring reality and promoting Jim Crow memes.
The actual situation is NOT an assumption. 81% of Black Americans said that if the 2026 midterm elections were held today, they would vote for the Democratic candidate over a Republican candidate.
But it looks like maths is not your forte.
PS: I will concede that Nicki Minaj and Kanye might go Republican.
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eMortal · M
That's what the Supreme Court says.
But if you're really sure about your logic, having a majority black district shouldn't scare anyone either because it could potentially vote Republican!
So why did they cancel an ongoing election to redraw the map? They should have trusted black constituents could vote Republican!
You see now that it's Partisan gerrymandering? SCOTUS shouldn't have intervened.
But if you're really sure about your logic, having a majority black district shouldn't scare anyone either because it could potentially vote Republican!
So why did they cancel an ongoing election to redraw the map? They should have trusted black constituents could vote Republican!
You see now that it's Partisan gerrymandering? SCOTUS shouldn't have intervened.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@eMortal And of course no jerrymandering occured to get that majority black district, eh
eMortal · M
@sunsporter1649 it happened. SCOTUS has refused to get into Partisan gerrymandering in the past. Why now? Because the case of disguised as a racial issue. The loophole the GOP found.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
So refusing people the right to be represented?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Strictmichael75 Nope, the loophole SCOTUS closed, now you demonocrats will have to rely on the quality of your ideas, not the color of one's skin to win elections
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sree251 · 41-45, M
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
This has nothing at all to do with this question but I just have to ask
Do you like to Waltz with tomatoes ?
Do you like to Waltz with tomatoes ?
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Ontheroad · M
@SumKindaMunster fair question... if we ignore several factors. And to answer your question it would take us in a related direction, but a far different and far ranging conversation.
None of our political questions are simple, can be answered with a simple yes or no answer and involve more than just politics.
None of our political questions are simple, can be answered with a simple yes or no answer and involve more than just politics.
Ontheroad · M
@SumKindaMunster inescapably would include some of the truthful narratives, none of the deceitful propaganda (other than to debunk it) and it would include both sides.
The parties, both of them, are the problem and both at different times have brought us to where we are. I'm not a fan of either party... or more of the power either has. The people are not running this country and neither are their representatives. The party runs the representatives and them people come, if at all, last.
The parties, both of them, are the problem and both at different times have brought us to where we are. I'm not a fan of either party... or more of the power either has. The people are not running this country and neither are their representatives. The party runs the representatives and them people come, if at all, last.
DealingWithTrouble · 41-45, M
justbob · 61-69, M
@DealingWithTrouble There is some rational basis for geographic districts on the basis of local communities having local issues best understood by the people who live there.
DealingWithTrouble · 41-45, M
@justbob so you're saying it's a legitimate and important consideration for a representative to speak on behalf of a group of people who have common interests?
Say, like the shared experience of dealing with racism?
Say, like the shared experience of dealing with racism?
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@DealingWithTrouble It’s okay to gerrymander for whites, but not blacks.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Voting as a community could maybe once have been a human right. ROFL,,!
Anything goes! You're civic incapable. Community makes absolutely no sense in a brutal society! Like this!
Anything goes! You're civic incapable. Community makes absolutely no sense in a brutal society! Like this!