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Racism and homophobia

It's got me thinking about stuff like dermatology, where most products are commercialized with the idea the lighter your skin is the better. Hair product that says "Makes your hair healthier" but then as a black person you use it and it gives your hair a weird consistency because it tries to make your hair smoother because smother hair usually looks healthier on White people.
Up till this point I still haven't had a phone with a camera that knows how to capture black skin, as soon as I open my camera to take a self in the bathroom it automatically saturates the image because the phone detects the image is too dark, but no it's just me having a darker skin tone.

It's these little subliminal messages that makes you feel not included, and for a kid, I'd imagine it must hurt a lot.

As a black person you have to do a lot of research on how to take care of your hair, and understand beauty doesn't depend on skin tone.

And I know people are gonna say "Oh you are exaggerating, it's not that bad" because it's been said to me many times when I complain about these stuff, when I was younger, I was added to a group chat for young gays under 18. A day or so after being included, someone said "Oh I would never date a black guy" and message after message came saying the same thing. I think they had no idea I was black.
I personally think this is why there are barely any mix raced couples, at least here in Spain, cause, tho no one would fully admit it, there is this internalized racism, disguised as "Preference".
Another example of this would be, many years ago, I was with a friend, who at the time was my closest friend, some of his friends were also there. He all of a sudden said to "Junior, I don't mean this in the wrong way, but I would never eat a black girl's pussy" his friends then called him out for it, saying that's not ok.

And this doesn't only happens in race, but also sexuality. There are these homophobic comments that have been inserted in modern society and blended with it so well we don't even recognize them as such. But, again, as a young, naive person, still figuring out who you are, you don't need to be bullied to feel inferior, all this already does that for you.

That's why I think it's so important to educate the younger generations about what it means to be LGBT and help them learn there is nothing wrong with it. But of course you'll always have that one person that goes "Oh, they are kids, they are too young to learn what it means to be LGBT", to me it's always funny when someone says that because from their point of view kids are too young to learn what being gay or a lesbian means but not what being straight means. That's because for those being "straight" is the norm and LGBT is more like a kink, so therefore no need to include kids there. It's ok and normal for kids to see mommy and daddy hold hands and share a kiss but as soon as it's 2 men or 2 women holding hands or sharing a kiss, it's automatic because wrong for them.

Again, I think this type of very very shuttle message of "The lighter the better, LGBT is not the norm" is what really taints how we treat and see each other.


I remember this one time, coming back from work. At the time I worked at a pizza shop and would end really really late at night. This one night, on my way home I noticed a women and a girl who I assumed was her daughter looking back at my direction a lot. I was confused, I thought "Is there something behind me, or around me I can't see"
Then I noticed the woman kinda clutched her purse and I was like "Ahh I see". So I hurried up, gave them enough space for them to feel safe when I walked past them, and left enough space between us for them to know I am no threat.
Experiences like these are weird because people always say "You've been in Spain so long, you are more Spanish than Nigerian now" and tho it is true I have been in Spain way longer than my birth country, I still sometimes feel out of place fue to experiences like this. And my fear is that, I don't think Nigeria feels like home, not anymore, not after so many years here.

The best way I can explain it, and tho it's a bit extreme. It's almost like being abducted by humanoid aliens, who take you away to their planet where you start a new life, different culture, landscape landscapes, different animals, different languages, different food, different rules and costumes, which you get used to as time goes on. So much time that you've been on this strange planet longer than you were on earth. Then years later, somehow, you get back "home", earth. Then you notice, it doesn't feel like home, it doesn't feel welcoming, you don't feel included or understood, cause the way you now do and see things have changed. People other humans think you are weird, cause you do things differently than they do. But you also can't go back to the planet you been at for so many years cause there you are "The weird human" and on earth you are "The weird alien man".

That's what it feels like.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Thank you for your excellent post.

I think micro-aggressions permeate society. We need to continually re-examine our assumptions and habits and not be afraid or too proud to change the way in which we see or do things.

I learned this month that hospital pulse oximeters (my wife is a nurse) do not work effectively with darker pigmented skins. So non-white people may have poorer health outcomes when admitted. Not because the manufacturers are intentionally racist, but because the research behind them was based almost wholly upon white participants.

Growing up, our childhoods were mercifully free of homophobia, but we were constantly reminded of the ways in which we were different to other kids . . not least because same-sex marriage was illegal.

Now we are proud (adoptive) parents to a beautiful girl of uncertain parentage, who has enough African genes to stand out in her school class. She is rarely picked out in her peer group for her appearance, but we spend a lot of time working out how to keep her skin healthy in a cold northern climate, or trying to tame her unruly hair, lol, with little help.or sympathy from other people.
jrcervin · 26-30, M
@SunshineGirl I am so glad you had the chance to learn about this. I always say "You don't fully understand something until you go through it"

I know a lot of people support the black community, but I just feel like you don't fully understand the struggles until you have no choice but to go through it. That's one of the things I appreciate so much from being black and gay, it helps me understand discrimination in ways I think most can't.
It's these little subliminal messages that makes you feel not included, and for a kid, I'd imagine it must hurt a lot

This is why representation is so important. You don't even realise the impact until you notice the reaction evoked in you when you do finally see someone that resonates with you.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
You gotta separate the issue of homophobia and thinking that it's wrong. One kind of person hates or is scared of gay people, and the other kind of person simply thinks that homosexuality is wrong. I belong to the latter, but homosexuality doesn't intimidate me in the least. You can be gay, it's fine with me, but it's when you want to teach my kids that LGBT is "right" or "correct" that we will start having issues. Let people have their beliefs/opinions.

I also don't understand that preference to be whiter. I have a female friend from the philippines and I ask her if she tans and she's like "ew I don't want to become black" 😂 She and her friends wear full coverage on the beach when they swim to stay white. Personally I like dark skinned girls, but especially in Asia they're really racist with their beauty standards, it's actually wild.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@MartinTheFirst Nope. You can be as bigoted as you want. Still doesn't change the fact that gay adults were gay children at one point. Straight, gay etc are all part of natural development into adulthood regardless of your personal feelings
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@MartinTheFirst You'll be okay.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
You see racism everywhere you go because you have adopted the prejudice. Take your story about the woman, you just assume it's because you're Nigerian when it's far more likely because you are a man around a woman at night.

I grew up with a family where it was common to insult gay people. Turns out when you're actually being mistreated, you don't see so called microaggressions and supposed systemic discrimination. I was exposed to heterosexually themed nudity from a young age in the form of a pornographic image cube that not only sat around my house but was specifically shown to me by my father as if it were some kind of good times joke and I still see that as inappropriate. Nobody should be talking to children about sexuality in either direction and they should just leave children alone.

Everyone feels left out, everyone is alone. Ugly kids, fat kids, weird kids. It's not unique to race, sex, or expression. You can become a perpetual victim or you can realize you're not special, and it's healthier to do the latter because you'll become far more resilient.
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Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@jrcervin Because you are exaggerating, you assume racism in ambiguous situations. And no, it's not to defend her, I'm showing you that you have a warped perception of the world around you.

Does she know you're gay? Are you an omniscient being that knows everything going through her mind?

Nope, you have no business talking to kids about sexuality either. I never said it had to be porn explicitly. Adults who want to talk to children about sexuality are creeps. You're supposed to let kids figure these things out for themselves.

Ohh if only you knew how gay I am. My story was a lesson that if I can come from that kind of background and not fall into the same behavior or kill myself over it then nobody else has an excuse. You whine about trivial and inconclusive things when there are overt displays of homophobia that you can easily call out if you need your fix.

Yes you should move on because you're never going to get rid of it all. The better and more encompassing approach would then be strive for resilience instead of catering to weakness, always on the backfoot and playing defense. You'll never win that way.

No, given infinite time your exact situation would be replicated by the atoms of the universe. Ask any physicist.

You can only ever be victimized in a moment, carrying that victimization is you choosing it. You let it define you and your actions... but you don't have to.

It's just a reality that women are scared of men. If you think an acknowledgement of a fact is an endorsement then you are sorely mistaken because when women pull this line I tell them the same thing I'm telling you. "Get over yourself." People talk at length about not giving into stereotypes but whenever they enter a one on one conversation with an individual that's one of the first things they do.
Therealsteve · 31-35, M
A phobia. An anxiety severe enough in its impact on daily functioning that the individual seeks a registered medical professional of whom will give an official diagnosis of the relevant phobia, accompanied with appropriate treatment and medication.

To use such a term to describe anything other than this is to pathologize opinions of which you don't want people to have. Such bigoted practices have a history of acute evil, death and destruction, with much further-reaching and profound damage than "homophobia".
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Therealsteve The meaning regarding homophobia is correct even if individuals don't seek help for their homophobia. These people have the very definition of it running their lives with everything they do, they just don't see it.

Homophobic individuals are so preoccupied with their anti gay personas it does affect them and their behavior is highly unusual. They are not normal and they do need help.

Technically the definition fits from what I've seen
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I definitely know how this is…and add sexism to the equation. I think the first "compliment" I remember after integrating my school was being told, "You’re pretty—for a black girl."
Okie dokie. And this was from a teacher. 🙄
Northwest · M
They are two entirely different things. Ernst Röhm was openly homosexual and Peter Thiel, another German and openly homosexual, put JD Vance in his VP position.

 
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