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The Immigrants Issue and Protests

Today, I watched this video, and it highlighted a vital aspect that I actually agree with. I am an immigrant myself in a foreign nation, and I have been groomed to think and live the way the others in my nation do. I respect the laws of the country I live in, and my home country is hardly on my mind during my routine life. Simply because from day one I was taught when in Rome, do as Romans do. Of course, if there's something I disagree with, I politely and respectfully put my point across. I am assertive if the other individual is assertive. I don't mind being defensive to the aggressive tactics of obnoxious individuals as well, if they ask for it.

Well, the point I am trying to highlight is that immigrants who decide to move and live in a foreign country must know the art of mingling and respecting and understanding the culture, society norms, law and lifestyle of the foreign nations they are migrating to. Being an immigrant, I do not like the immigrants who move to a foreign nation but do not wish to adapt to the ways of the foreign country they are migrating to. There are lots of immigrants, especially from countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Congo, Ghana, Nigeria, etc. I have nothing against them, but what I despise is the set of individuals who wish to build a home country in a foreign nation and live in it like their home country. The point is if you really love your home country a lot, then why the heck did you decide to move to and make a living in a foreign nation? You could have happily stayed in your country and continued with the ways of your country, but you opted to move to another nation in search of better. Now that you're in a country where you will find better, live and adapt to the ways of that country, and leave the traditional ways where you came from. By always sticking to your native roots, you'll never be seen as the one from the country you moved to. You will always be seen as a foreigner, and the natives of that country will question and see you with suspicion.

Governments across the globe should be stringent when it comes to immigration, and they should keep a close watch on immigrants. Also, the governments of other countries should not take advantage of the disrupted political and socio-economic state of countries because this is indeed one of the key reasons for illegal immigration. When a country with funds and resources destroys a country that has something in abundance that they believe belongs to them and they can acquire it with unlawful and unethical means, it causes havoc in that country, and the people of that land leave their homeland in search of better. Some easily mingle with the people of the country they move to, but some don't. The lot that chooses not to mingle becomes the target after some time. People of the country you migrate to will not ignore your traditional ways forever. They will question your ways of living if you don't wish to respect, understand, and adapt to the widely accepted society norms and ways of living of that country.

This is exactly why immigrants, be they legal or illegal, are being targeted today in several countries. Immigrants who move to other nations must learn and speak the language of the country they are moving to. Half the battle is already won if you talk like people of that country do. Gradually transit into the society of that country, and let the next generation be and live like the people of the country you moved to. Please do not compel the next generation to stick to the native roots and all that crap. If you really care a lot about the native roots, traditions and customs, then you must go back to where you came from as soon as possible.

This is my perspective. If you disagree with it, it is absolutely fine. Your life, your ways, but embrace the fact that your immigrant mindset will only cause trouble for you unless you change yourself. Fact: take it or leave it!

Lastly, governments that do not like immigrants may deport them but shouldn't be violent during the process. Such actions have further consequences. Nab them, apprehend them, deport them, but don't use unnecessary force and violence. Also, don't assume that the legal ones are also the illegal ones. There are several civilised ways to distinguish people other than just by looking at the colour of the skin and facial features.

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SatanBurger · 36-40, F

Well, the point I am trying to highlight is that immigrants who decide to move and live in a foreign country must know the art of mingling and respecting and understanding the culture

If the things they do in their own culture don't hurt anyone else, I don't see no reason to not keep your own culture. I'm for open dialogue always. If there's anything I don't understand I like to ask or find out. I don't really see why people need to mingle though. You don't need to be an extrovert to live here.

I have nothing against them, but what I despise is the set of individuals who wish to build a home country in a foreign nation and live in it like their home country.

But can you name examples? For me personally this seems too vague like a group was trying to take over America by making it their country. Which group and what did they take over with? Because I missed that if that's the case.

Governments across the globe should be stringent when it comes to immigration, and they should keep a close watch on immigrants.

Actually America already was strict, it's too strict. We have the world's most messed up laws on immigration. If anything, we could work on streamlining our process while also simultaneously having stricter border enforcement. Those two together work.

Here's good link on what is wrong with our system:

https://www.cato.org/blog/why-legal-immigration-system-broken-short-list-problems

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/why-legal-immigration-nearly-impossible

While the United States has dithered for decades about how best to address immigration and its labor force needs, many other countries have opened their doors to new arrivals and are now surpassing the United States in attracting immigrants from across the skills spectrum. Whether scientists or home health aides, other countries are now offering better options for immigrant workers.

Why is the United States falling behind in attracting immigrants?

The basic answer is that the United States has a very restrictive legal immigration system. The basic structure of U.S. immigration policy—which has remained virtually unchanged since the 1960s—permits permanent legal immigration from abroad only by a narrow set of categories

https://www.cato.org/publications/us-immigration-policy-lags-behind-globalizing-world#us-economy-native-workers-benefit-immigrants

This is exactly why immigrants, be they legal or illegal, are being targeted today in several countries.

I think this is called a justification for racism and bigotry. All of what you say is very generalized while ignoring certain aspects like countries that are very far right wing targeting certain groups because they don't want other cultures around. Sometimes and this is a hard fact to accept, people just hate others for existing as they are. These people will never be happy.

Suppose you know both Spanish and English but you talk Spanish with your mother who only knows Spanish and an anti immigrant person gets offended that you speak Spanish. Even if you speak English well, some people will always be angry regardless whether you speak English well or not. They just don't want you around.

Sometimes what people say is the issue isn't the issue at all and I find that believing everything people say is the issue is naive.

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SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@SoLeRiMix Hate to tell you this but home grown citizens commit more crimes this is backed up by statistics. Yup bad immigrants sometimes and yup bad citizens sometimes.

People are always going to celebrate their own culture and I'm here for it. Where would we be without different cultures food or holidays. We would be bland.

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@SatanBurger

Hate to tell you this but home grown citizens commit more crimes this is backed up by statistics. Yup bad immigrants sometimes and yup bad citizens sometimes.

This is exactly why I said criminals, irrespective of what background they are from, are criminals. No mercy for them, be they the natives or immigrants. However, an immigrant population with a significant number of antisocial elements should be as alarming as the rising percentage of native criminals. Most immigrant criminals work for native crime syndicates (organised crime).

People are always going to celebrate their own culture and I'm here for it. Where would we be without different cultures food or holidays. We would be bland.

It's fine with me! I beg to differ with you on certain aspects, but I respect your perspective. I am not against diversity. What I am against is the diversity sticking to their roots in every way after migrating to a country where the society is different.

I wouldn't have any issues if I saw an immigrant (irrespective of his/her colour, race, religion, community, etc.) dressed like others around him, as civilised as others and talking like others. However, if I saw one dressed as an individual of the country he/she is from, boasting about where he/she is from, and barely talking like others the country he/she has migrated to, I will change the course of my path, and will support the group that is against such individuals.

I respect the individuals who make efforts to talk like others of the country they migrated to. I respect the immigrants who understand and value the laws and societal norms of the country they migrate to, but the ones who do not wish to – I don't like them at all.

Filipinos are the best at mingling and adapting to the ways of living of the country they migrate to. 😇

specman · 51-55, MVIP

We have a lot of violent illegal aliens and a lot from adversarial countries ( which are believed to be sleeper cells for nefarious purposes) illegal immigration is a large unwanted and not needed drain for taxpayers . Most if not all of the illegal aliens remain faithful to the country they originated from. I would rather have the immigrants that abide by our laws and migrated legally. All that I can do is watch and support ICE as they work to deport them.

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Northwest · M

@specman Did you actually watch the video? 🤣

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@specman You can't migrate legally the United States has one of the world's most restrictive policies on immigration

https://www.cato.org/blog/why-legal-immigration-system-broken-short-list-problems

1. A far too restrictive system overall.
2. Static immigration quotas.
3. Quotas on nationalities—the law micromanages immigrant demographics.
4. Immigrants wait in line for decades.
5. Immigrant workers are counted against multiple quotas.
6. There’s a limit for immigrants with “extraordinary ability”.
7. Workers without college degrees only get 5,000 green cards.
8. The president can end the refugee program unilaterally.
9. No immigration category for entrepreneurs.
10. No way to create new immigration categories without congressional action.
11. Immigrants generally cannot apply for permanent residency on their own.
12. Spouses and minor children of new immigrants count against the quotas.
13. There’s a quota on new spouses and minor children of current permanent residents.
14. Children of temporary workers grow up here, wait in line with their parents for permanent residency, and get kicked out of line on their 21st birthday.
15. Immigrants can live here for decades without receiving permanent residency.
16. Illegal immigrants cannot leave and reapply to return legally.
17. Spouses and children of temporary workers are banned from working.
18. The law requires immigrants to pretend that they don’t want to immigrate.
19. Forcing employers to advertise positions that are already filled.
20. Temporary workers cannot easily change jobs.
21. No temporary visas at all for year-round workers without college degrees.
22. Noncitizens can access federal welfare programs after five years.
23. The president can ban any immigrants that he doesn’t like.
24. No opportunity to appeal visa denials.
25. The burden of proof is on immigrants and their sponsors, not the government.
26. America has closed borders with a few holes.

https://www.cato.org/publications/us-immigration-policy-lags-behind-globalizing-world#us-economy-native-workers-benefit-immigrants

specman · 51-55, MVIP

@SatanBurger the illegals should go there then lol

romell · 51-55, M

Totally agree with you brother well said

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@romell Thank you, Brother! 😇🤝

Jenny1234 · 56-60, F

I agree with you

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@Jenny1234 Thank you, Ma'am! 😇🤝

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F

Unfortunately it is near impossible to integrate into any society if you are housed in a hotel for 12-18 months with no legal right to work while your asylum claim is being processed.

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BlobbyMcBlobface · 100+, M

@SunshineGirl No, i want to know what you think they're seeking asylum for. They have already passed through several safe countries but they seem to be determined to get those houses, benefits and free NHS treatment, it's called economic migration.

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F

@BlobbyMcBlobface If you are genuinely interested, you can obtain statistics from the Home Office. There is no need to speculate. This post, however, is about the social integration of asylum seekers living in hotels, not your opinions about the UK's immigration policies in general.

BlobbyMcBlobface · 100+, M

@SunshineGirl A perfect example of how mass immigration is dividing nations.

BlobbyMcBlobface · 100+, M

Whenever I visit another country I learn the basics of the language, I acknowledge the locals with a smile and a hello whenever necessary and I respect their traditions.
These illegal immigrants do neither because they have no intention of integrating.

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@BlobbyMcBlobface

These illegal immigrants do neither because they have no intention of integrating.

You're absolutely right! There are lots of immigrants who barely wish to make an effort to understand the country they migrate to. It doesn't make any sense to me.

wrule · F

Excellent, well said.

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@wrule Thank you, Ma'am!😇🤝

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

Did you know that the only ethnic group that was first specifically welcomed in America by immigration law was Black Africans? They were welcomed to beome naturalized citizens.

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@Diotrephes Yes! I know about the 14th Amendment and what happened in 1868. However, what has that got to do with my post? African-Americans blended well with the American society despite the racism and police brutality they faced later. They have set several examples about how to be successful despite several hurdles in the way. 😇

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@SoLeRiMix

Yes! I know about the 14th Amendment and what happened in 1868. However, what has that got to do with my post? African-Americans blended well with the American society despite the racism and police brutality they faced later. They have set several examples about how to be successful despite several hurdles in the way

I was not referring to the 14th Amendment but to the Naturalization Act of 1870.

"AI Overview
The Naturalization Act of 1870 created a new system of controls for the naturalization process, limiting it to free white people, aliens of African nativity, and people of African descent. This law changed who could become a U.S. citizen, restricting it to these groups and excluding other non-white immigrants, such as Asians, from naturalization. The act was a significant federal law that reinforced the racial boundaries of American citizenship.
Racial restrictions: The act declared that only free white people, aliens of African nativity, and those of African descent could become naturalized citizens.
Exclusion of others: This effectively excluded other groups, particularly Chinese immigrants who were becoming a significant part of the population, from becoming citizens.
System of controls: Beyond racial limitations, the act also created a system of controls and penalties for fraudulent naturalization practices.
Context: The law was enacted following a period of debate about racial and ethnic boundaries of citizenship and in the context of increased immigration."

Americans should know American history.

SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@Diotrephes

Americans should know American history.

This is the funny bit! Most Americans who check my posts presume that I am an American. I am not an American.

What you described above is a part of the process that began in 1868. I am not disagreeing with what you explained above. I am just referring to what I know. The process of naturalisation may have become difficult as time progressed, but the ones who migrate with legit papers and good skillsets are welcomed by American authorities. Yes! There may be examples of the legit ones being denied too, and that's quite unfortunate, but let's not ignore the ones welcomed after a thorough scrutiny. 😇

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SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M

@Roundandroundwego Immigrants, irrespective of the country they come from, must mould themselves according to the ways of the country they migrate to. Otherwise, they may head back to where they came from. Simple! If they push the natives, then the natives too have the right to push them.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@SoLeRiMix these will only ever be temporary citizens and only ever get to arrive because one of them killed for the USA in their own land.

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