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Is bringing up the brutality of the Conquest of the New World on Columbus Day an attack on White Culture or just learning from history?

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Northwest · M
The Columbus Holiday should not be a national holiday.

However, it's not really Columbus who single handedly destroyed the indigenous population, and raped the land and natural resources. That would take another 400 years, if it ever stopped, sort of ending with the US expansion Westward.
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
It’s historical facts from five centuries ago. If people today want to take it as a personal attack, that’s on them.
Piper · 61-69, F
More acknowledging the actual reality of that history, maybe, than learning from it. Seems some think even speaking of and acknowledging that brutality, is somehow "unpatriotic".
Piper · 61-69, F
@sunsporter1649 You do not, of course, have the remotest idea of what I know or am "ignorant" of.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Piper Apparently your knowledge of the pre-Columbian sweet loving natives is lacking in some spots
Piper · 61-69, F
@sunsporter1649 What is apparent, is you making asssumptions based on nothing at all.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
It is a false claim by those who hate liberal democracy. Columbus did a lot more good in this world than evil. BTW did you read about the discovery of human sacrifice dating from pre-Columbian days?
Ynotisay · M
I see it as people looking back hundreds of years, applying today's thinking to then, and using it as a launching pad for whatever grievance they want to wallow in. But my guess, although I could be wrong, is that you're also looking for, or motivating, grievance with this question. I'm CERTAIN that there's as many Conservatives out there stomping their feet over this as there are Liberals. Just different sides of the coin. It's how we roll these days.
@Ynotisay really? I think it’s just a pretty objective question on a timely subject. What words?
Ynotisay · M
@JonLosAngeles66 Well, the initial "Conquest," (capital 'C') wasn't particularly brutal. That came later. And White Culture? Also capitalized? What exactly is that? I'm white. What culture do I belong to? Is there a White Memo I didn't get? Let me know because it's really important to me that I stay in the appropriate lane.
@Ynotisay I capitalized what seemed key and it’s just my view of a particular culture war. And the Conquest, which is supposed to be capitalized btw, was brutal. There’s seems to be a rewriting of history going on in this thread. I’m not sure how slavery isn’t intrinsically brutal.
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chrisCA · M
Learn it as History, but don't honour these people.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
A bit of both.
@ChipmunkErnie How is it an "insult” to call them tribes ? Within nations there were intertribal (or inter ethnic) wars, slaves taken from among those who lost. It’s more of an insult to assume there were no ethnic or tribal differences within nations or countries.

And simply in term of numbers, what do you imagine the percentage of black slave owners were as compared to whites, especially after legislation like various Fugitive Slave acts and the Dred Scott Decision made sure no black person’s continued freedom was guaranteed, until the Emancipation Proclamation ?
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard "Tribal" as opposed to "nations" -- "tribal" generally carries connotations of a primativeness as compared to nationhood.

As to percentages, it's got nothing to do with the discussion since it focuses SOLELY on what happened in the US, not worldwide. Plus this was a post about Columbus Day and native peoples, not slavery in the US.
@ChipmunkErnie Tribal has to be primitive ? That’s not how it’s defined in other situations.
(Yes, I know what the post was about: the possibility of an "attack on white culture" which smacks of defensiveness. And was very familiar.)
Definition of tribe
1a : a social group composed chiefly of numerous families, clans, or generations having a shared ancestry and language
b : a political division of the Roman people originally representing one of the three original tribes of ancient Rome
It's just a bad faith excuse to attack white people.
Only if one defines "White Culture” solely as committing genocide against other groups. It can’t be "attacked" otherwise.
Dino11 · M
The truth shall set you free.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
The boat goes both ways....
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I guess just like the Putin polls on SW, there will always be a couple of knuckle draggers picking the wrong choice

If Europeans had kept their happy @ss in Europe, how in the h3ll would that be an "attack on white culture"?

What IS "white culture" in the first place? All kinds of widely different people happen to have a lighter melanin level, which is nothing more than a lack of sunlight at higher latitudes, from an evolutionary perspective

 
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