bijouxbroussard · F
In other cultures, are men the ones who do the asking ?
Thanks to feminism women can now extend the invitation (which wasn’t always considered appropriate before). Traditionally the person who invited was generally the person who paid, so women often pay now, too, although there are some men who are insulted when a woman grabs the check (I have had that experience).
Thanks to feminism women can now extend the invitation (which wasn’t always considered appropriate before). Traditionally the person who invited was generally the person who paid, so women often pay now, too, although there are some men who are insulted when a woman grabs the check (I have had that experience).
beermeplease · M
i hope sw will be around for another 15 years or so... i'd be curious to know what type of person you'd be when you get to my age.....certainly i wasn't a "tool" when i was 36-40....or even 13 for that matter.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@beermeplease He's the dictionary definition for tool
beermeplease · M
@NativePortlander1970 also a type of fastener.... a "nut"
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Times change, but the basis is your ability to provide. If you can’t handle a simple date financially, why should she trust her future on you?
Granted, that’s an oversimplification, but it’s based on reality. Paying has absolutely zero to do with sex. She owes you nothing.
Fight it all you want, but your energy is best focused on being confident, having fun and garnering trust.
If money is that tight, a woman isn’t your problem. You need a better job.
Granted, that’s an oversimplification, but it’s based on reality. Paying has absolutely zero to do with sex. She owes you nothing.
Fight it all you want, but your energy is best focused on being confident, having fun and garnering trust.
If money is that tight, a woman isn’t your problem. You need a better job.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Adogslife I have a good job, but my mortgage and welfare of me and my 8 y/o daughter comes first. Anything left over can, if opportunity arises, be put towards things like dating, but I have other issues around that (mostly availability due to shiftwork around parenting) and women can't handle that I can't make them the priority.
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MarineBob · 56-60, M
Ask your daddy
Prettybratbi1tch · 26-30, F
So you know all the women from the USA and you know for a fact that they're all like this? Wow impressive
dpoet · 36-40, M
@Prettybratbi1tch when did you become a grammar nazi?
Prettybratbi1tch · 26-30, F
@dpoet apparently I just did I had no idea I was one .. thank you for telling me
dpoet · 36-40, M
@Prettybratbi1tch I will send you the bill
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Women seem to have taken 'tipping culture' and twisted it around the rope of toxic feminism.
Modern women have lists of 'bare minimum standards' a man must meet, among them the man expected to pay for the first date, first days can no longer be coffee but must be fancy multi-hundred restaurant dinner dates, he must pass the 'strawberry test', and more.
Modern women have lists of 'bare minimum standards' a man must meet, among them the man expected to pay for the first date, first days can no longer be coffee but must be fancy multi-hundred restaurant dinner dates, he must pass the 'strawberry test', and more.
bijouxbroussard · F
@zonavar68 "Toxic masculinism" is where the man asks, hassles the woman if she says no, and has the expectation that she’ll sleep with him on that first date. I don’t understand why men who dislike women bother dating at all.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard Just so you know, I have *never* 'hassled' a woman who said 'no' to a date, and *never* tried to pressure a woman into sex, whether it be first date or not. If a woman declines, I just say thanks politely and walk away. Even if the women declines in a nasty way (which usually means she doesn't find me interesting/attractive or perceive me to be rich lol) I am still always courteous in response.
bijouxbroussard · F
@zonavar68 And believe it or not, there are women who split the bill and have no problem meeting for a coffee or lunch date. You’re looking at the worst case scenarios with women; they certainly exist among men, too.
Shybutwilling2bfriends · 61-69
Not all of us do
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Common is probably word to use.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
I'm one of those horrible conservative woman you speak of sir.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
If I split a bill I consider it a friend . That's what I would do with friends. If it's romantic we are adults whomever pays, pays nobody's splitting the bill.
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
Then go date other cultures
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@ScreamingFox Not saying it's how you think, but heaps of single women I've tried to date have been interested firstly in how rich I appear to be then secondly about other attributes. It's usually very obvious when women are going after money before actual relationship genuineness because they test you against their 'minimum standards' of financial affluence on first dates.
Because I'm not rich (cash poor but debt free other than mortgage) and have a shiftwork job plus being a single dad to my 8 y/o daughter, first dates usually don't go very well. 8-)
Because I'm not rich (cash poor but debt free other than mortgage) and have a shiftwork job plus being a single dad to my 8 y/o daughter, first dates usually don't go very well. 8-)
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@ScreamingFox Ok I didn't get that when I read it - my neuro-divergent brain.
Sorry for mis-interpreting.
Sorry for mis-interpreting.
Mero313 · 41-45, F
Men should pay everything for women not just USA
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NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
No wonder you cannot get laid to save your life.