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if the United States ban guns like so many people say we should, they'll all just go away right?

Just like illegal drugs and prostitution went away, guns will too if they make them illegal
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GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F
No total gun ban could succeed in the US, and in fact that's not what's being proposed on either the state or federal level. Work toward uniform gun regulations is focused on criminal background checks, control of automatic fire devices, high capacity magazines, and temporary confiscation of weapons from at risk individuals under "red flag" laws.

As far as getting weapons off the street, voluntary buy back programs are one strategy that can work if done right. When strict gun control laws went into effect in Australia in 1996, a nationwide buy back collected nearly 700,000 guns by 1997.
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@GuiltyBiStander

The contols you suggest already exist in much of the country and are not making a difference where they do. Why? Because the majority of gun crimes are not committed by legal gun owners or w legal guns.

What worked in Australia is highly unlikely to have the same outcome here. There are too many guns here .. especially illegal guns in the hands of too many criminals who will not turn their guns in.

Getting 20% on the dollar or less and lose the right / ability to protect myself ?

Hard pass.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@BrandNewMan and hot conservative men. USA 💕
romell · 51-55, M
Yours is the only country which legally allows weapons in hands of citizens which can challenge law enforcement or even the armed forces ..why are such weapons required by individuals..this is no longer the wild west ..you have armed police n world's biggest armed forces ...selling guns is a big ticket business ,citizens lives are being compromised...remove automatics ,remove high calibre guns,control weapons with better verification...you should be safer country ..why is america the only country which has regular mass shootings not by terrorists but by whackos....speak up save your future generations..
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@romell I know it's great
SpudMuffin · 61-69, M
@WoWgirll yes, shooting at targets or clays can be fun, as long as it's controlled and supervised
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
That's not what people are saying.

Read @GuiltyBiStander's reply.

A supermajority of citizens value life over guns. They'd rather have their siblings, cousins, children, grandchildren alive, rather than killed by people using guns made for hunting people, not food-yielding animal prey.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
given past performance it will just create a shadow market and organized crime will be the big winners.

I would doubt most owners would surrender them.

the only fix is to punish people that use them wrongly with stiff penalties

but then, nobody wants a prison in their back yard
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@RosaMarie Listen to yourself.

You suggest they be released as if illegal drug use and trafficking are not real punishable offenses. Really? No .. I dont support blanket releases of drug users or dealers just becausevthey are classed as nonviolent.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@RosaMarie fyi we have a law called stand your ground. Not all killing is illegal dear. It's very easy to invite someone over and say that they broke in.

So murder is a very generalized term.
SpudMuffin · 61-69, M
Of course not, there are too many guns in the US already. Even if guns were banned tomorrow it would be years before the existing guns would be out of circulation. But that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.
got my first gun when I was 10 years old, I am now 83 still have guns, haven't kill any one yet, no one breaks in my house,
Well, if not exactly "going away", it does seem to make it a lot more difficult to get hold of one in every other country in the world that bans handguns.

And by a happy coincidence, gun violence drops by about 95% and school shootings drop to 0.
The government typically pays cash for guns to clean up the society. Americans don't like that and so - you don't understand me! You don't know what by-ups are! You want this level of death! You don't want to be unarmed. I'm with you!!!!
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
Firearms Act 1996 (NSW) and Weapons Prohibition Act 1998 (NSW)

Common Firearm Offences
Unauthorised possession or use of firearms
Carrying or using a firearm without a valid licence or permit is a criminal offence.

Possession of unregistered firearms
Even if licensed, you must ensure the firearm itself is registered.

Failure to store firearms safely
Guns must be stored securely. Breaches can result in fines or criminal charges.

Prohibited modifications or alterations
Modifying a firearm to increase its firepower or disguise it can lead to additional charges.

Use of firearms in a dangerous or reckless manner
Discharging firearms in public or during altercations is heavily penalised.

Penalties: 5 to 14 years imprisonment

The National Firearms Agreement (NFA), also sometimes called the National Agreement on Firearms, the National Firearms Agreement and Buyback Program, or the Nationwide Agreement on Firearms
exchrist · 36-40
It might reduce but I can build a musket or 3d print a gun so ghost guns might be worse? (Untraceable)I prefer throwing knives ninja stars crossbows and bow/arrows anyway. Far fewer “accidental” casualties that way!
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@exchrist Impressed 👍
exchrist · 36-40
@WoWgirll yea plus they won’t expect and haven’t planned for flaming ballista firing from sailboats
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@exchrist you're fun . Can you make a ballistic knife? I sure can't
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
If guns get banned... I have a feeling mine will be stolen somehow before turning them in. Just a feeling
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@pdockal never happened not in our lives
@WoWgirll Let's hope
pdockal · 56-60, M
@WoWgirll

Unfortunately they are trying & are gaining support because of ALL the people who can't see past the gun to the issue
They would have to buy back the guns, and then enact laws saying anyone caught with a gun gets 20 years in prison. They could also offer money for people to turn others in who have guns.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@JamesBugman We have that kind of penalty for some drugs now and it has done little to stop the drug trade in the US.
@Nitedoc Yea a lot of people make their living selling drugs. A few going to prison won't make any difference. They just fill in with others and keep going.
With guns though, if the person was arrested and thrown in jail, and all his guns were confiscated, including the ones buried in his back yard, in hidden locations in the house, and at the storage place he rents, when he gets out he will be back to zero guns. It's a personal thing, not a business.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@JamesBugman That might be possible as a long term fix, and I mean like over several generations and 100 + years.
tobynshorty · 51-55, F
I dont think people that already own them will get rid of them.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@tobynshorty I won't I'd get them "stolen" 🤔
RosaMarie · 46-50, F
Of course not. But, over time, the availability of them would decrees. It would not make a difference on day one, nor in the first year. No one is claiming it will except for people using it as a strawman argument.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@BrandNewMan you have great guns 👍❤
@RosaMarie The US is 10x the population of many those places. More guns held in Houston and Dallas alone than ALL of Australia .. more illegally held guns in the US in all likelihood than legal ones in ALL those countries combined. You want to see the US become like any of the South American countries in any serious way?? Are you kidding me??

You are deluded to not understand the differences .. or use some of those examples.
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pdockal · 56-60, M
Almost impossible to ban them unless they figure out how to change the bill of rights

Again we need to focus & fix the why people choose to kill/assanate not the means
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@pdockal The USA has pursued a policy of prohibition on drugs since the 1960s. This was ambitious at the time. Now with the development of synthetic opiates it is impossible and futile. Yet if anyone suggested focusing and fixing why peop!e choose to take drugs, I suspect the right wing establishment would condemn this as "woke" nonsense.

Why are guns viewed differently? The reason generally cited for gun violence is "mental illness". Fixing a nation's mental health, although laudable, isa Herculean and endless task. Pragmatic gun regulation on the other hand is realistic and achievable.
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MasterLee · 56-60, M
No, but people would be jailed for offending someone.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@MasterLee 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
YoMomma ·
Ikr? “When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns”
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Infamous607 · 51-55, M
They're trying to get rid of prostitutes too??
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@Infamous607 ,😂😂 that was 👍 good .
Infamous607 · 51-55, M
@WoWgirll Then we can protect all our freedoms right there in the corner.
WoWgirll · 36-40, F
@Infamous607 I've wanted a ballistic knife for 20 years too. So cool dude even for hooking it's cool.
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