So I went to the 24 hour gas station near my house

@Torsten 🤦‍♂️


And of course you use a logical fallacy to "debunk" something you don't like while claiming others are doing so.

And "just quit" are the words you hear from entitled people who have never had to rely on a job for financial security in their lives.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow well when you try and make a argument that a job is slavery, some people will argue against that because it is to put it bluntly, idiotic.

I grew up poor and work 2 jobs now. I work damn hard for my families financial security and put up with a lot of shit. It is entitled though to be able to leave your job during work hours without permission to do so.
I dont know any real job that allows that, especially when you are left on your own to run a store.
People get into that line of work knowing full well, they can not just leave and if a emergency is to happen, someone needs to come in and replace them before they can go.
That is just how it is.
But since you are trying to argue with me on this, please tell me how a job is considered slavery like this thread indicates

@Torsten That is an interesting argument since you had to use a logical fallacy taking it to absolutely ridiculous extremes that nobody is arguing to make your point. That is idiotic.


If any of that is true that just makes your "just quit" statement like a trust fund baby even worse.

Not everyone has the luxury of picking and choosing what they do for work like it is a hobby.

And since you are trying to argue from a ridiculous extreme that nobody is arguing I know you are not even trying to discuss this in good faith.


Paying someone a nominal wage is not or should not ever be a blank check to treat people as sub human.

Clear you seem to disagree.

And please explain to me how demanding someone pay back out of pocket what was stolen at gun point and is already covered by insurance within 3 hours of having a gun stuck in their face is acceptable. I am curious how you spin that one. Because that also happened recently in the "land of the free."

@Torsten Oh and fun fact, a couple months ago in the US a judge barred staff from quitting at a hospital because apparently you are only allowed to quit with your employer's permission now. What does that sound like?

Or how about most of the Fortune 500 using forced prison labour? The one place that curiously has a slavery loophole.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow being a slave is to be someones property. That is the basic definition of it.
When you try and say someone is a slave, it is fair for others to go to that definition.
You call it a ridiculous extreme and I agree. Calling someone a slave due to a job is a ridiculous thing to say.

either quit of get fired. Doesnt matter. If you cant do the job, the end result will be the same regardless.
You can call that a "trust fund baby" statement all you want but its called being realistic and living in the real world.

correct not everyone has the choice to pick and choose what they do for work. Those who work are fortunate none the less

if you consider it being treated as sub human to not be allowed to leave a place of work unattended, you must be the entitled one here

where did I ever claim someone should pay out of pocket for such things? dont try twisting what I said and make it about something else

@Torsten Funny, because your definition a minute ago was being in a position of being beaten to death. Seems like a moving goalpost.

Claiming that someone is not a slave because they are not being savagely beaten was ridiculous.



It is not being realistic it is being completely out of touch with the reality of working people and entitled.

So the entitled rich kid label fits.

Clearly you think people should be "grateful" for table scraps no matter how badly they are treated.

The armed robbery is another example brought up in the thread and the bit about people being barred from quitting by a judge also happened recently.

But you seem to have a mentality that suggests anything short of savage beatings is acceptable and something people should be grateful for.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow well that is what one could do to their slave is it not? There is no goal post moved.
Mate you're reaching so hard trying for some gotcha moment. Its not working

do you work? I dont think you do if you think im out of touch here.
You come off as extremely entitled

a label you tried to put on me and now twist my words into it fitting?
🤣 yeah okay mate. Keep reaching

I think the many many unemployed people who cant seem to find work would certainly be grateful for that type of job. You call it table scraps and again that is you coming off as a very entitled

Why keep trying to bring other examples into this? ohh wait, its course you really dont have a leg to stand on here

No I have the mentality that adults can look out for themselves and a job in no way considered slavery in the context of this thread.

@Torsten It is because it has nothing to do with the actual definition.


Lol. The right wing rich kid war cry of "get a job." Entitled is acting like you have never had to work a job to survive. Entitled and out of touch is acting like jobs are just something people pick and choose as hobbies.



Table scraps is not entitled, it is accurate if you know anything about wages for the last half century.

And unemployment is a whole separate issue but is also weaponized to coerce people into these positions.

"do whatever the fuck I demand or I will find someone who will."



Other examples were brought up because the point of the discussion is about how the USA mistreats workers on a level that is unacceptable or even illegal in the rest of the developed world.

On workers rights the US is half a century behind.