SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Why not be part of the solution instead of making vague generalisations and hoping for "new leaders"? Everyone can demonstrate leadership by being decent to their neighbours and contributing to strong communities that include everyone.
The danger of throwing up your hands and saying nothing works is that liars like Farage are likely to fill the vacuum.
The danger of throwing up your hands and saying nothing works is that liars like Farage are likely to fill the vacuum.
peterlee · M
@SunshineGirl Both Attlee and Blair were surrounded by competent people, ready to serve the Nation. Starmer has not been as fortunate, or he has not chosen well. Surely amongst his four hundred MPs there are people of talent. He just needs to locate them.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@peterlee Starmer's big problem is he's arrived after 14 years of tory corruption and incompetence - and voter impatience, and of course right wing media pumping out propaganda. I'm not a fan of Starmer, but I recognise the major problems he has. To make a serious change will take 10 years at least.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@peterlee The problems that Starmer faces - inflation, cost of living, stagnant growth, high demand for public services, instability in the USA - face most leaders across the western world. There are no simple answers other than to knuckle down and pursue long term objectives at the expense of short term popularity. I am reasonably satisfied that he is doing this. The trouble is every one expects instant results. He is a decent man, albeit a naive politician.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I think you are being too pessimistic, by overlooking the fact that although we do have serious problems and difficult social matters (as do many other countries) we do try to debate them, do try to overcome them; and to do so still in fairly civilised ways.
KarenDuponteDurose1 · 51-55, F
There's an uprising throughout the world, pet. Not just in the UK. The quicksand that is Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, that has been stretching it's corruption for years in royal, political, celebrity, financial, military and defence aspects of life is all unravelling and we just don't know who the heroes are or who the villians are.
It WILL settle. It will just take some time for us all to find out feet again.
It WILL settle. It will just take some time for us all to find out feet again.
KatyO83 · 41-45, F
Our problem is we left our allies 5 years ago and thought the USA would be our best buddy. We were so wrong. 60% now think leaving the EU was a mistake but no one will look seriously at undoing that. We're in no man's land. With no real leadership and no way out of our self induced malaise
We'll vote in Reform who'll only make everything worse by buddying up to Russia making us a greater unliked man of Europe than we already are.
We'll vote in Reform who'll only make everything worse by buddying up to Russia making us a greater unliked man of Europe than we already are.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@22Michelle But I would like Farage to have to take some responsibility at the polls rather than perpetually making political capital from others' perceived betrayal of Brexit.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@22Michelle Pardon?
What I wrote there was all fact: you did not bother to offer any others..
Being rude only demeans you.
What I wrote there was all fact: you did not bother to offer any others..
Being rude only demeans you.
val70 · 56-60
I'm sure that it's not that bad. Mind you, doing brexit and then facing Trump favouring Farage, well, that must hurt a lot
Thatsright · 61-69, M
Thatcher.
Vengabus · 36-40
We have no choice but to see them as an ally. We have to ask them in order to use our own nukes…not that I think we should be throwing nukes about.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Vengabus I agree - I would say no-one should ever use nuclear weapons again. (I refuse that US slang "nuke").
Also, it was worse than the UK having to ask the US permision to use ours.
It was not reciprocal.
During the Cold War the USA used the British Isles and presumably other parts of Europe as a potential launch-pad, but the agreements excluded, or at least did not include, the hosts' permission to launch them.
Also, it was worse than the UK having to ask the US permision to use ours.
It was not reciprocal.
During the Cold War the USA used the British Isles and presumably other parts of Europe as a potential launch-pad, but the agreements excluded, or at least did not include, the hosts' permission to launch them.
mossyboots · 51-55, F
The like of which will never be seen again because modern politicians do not measure up to them in any way. They operated in a much different era, ours are only interest in votes and how much money they can make.
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mossyboots · 51-55, F
@SunshineGirl Yes, I read about his expensive food choices. All politicians are in it for themselves in some way.
peterlee · M
@SunshineGirl I included Churchill as he was a brilliant leader at the time of war. Also for his early work in the visionary liberal governments before the First World War.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
It's really not that grave. The omly real issue is the extreme right. The likes of Fartrag, Yaxley-Lennon and his paedo friends. Euthanasia should be debated, people shouldhave the option of dying with dignity. The USA has made the devision to have a criminal, paedophile, bankript dementia sufferer as President who's the plaything of the extreme right. The UK needs to rejoin the EU and deal with intelligent people.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@GLITTER The extreme left are a minor issue that police and courts can deal with. The extreme right desperately want the extreme right to be made out to be a major issue, they're not
Khenpal1 · M
@22Michelle The UK needs to rejoin the EU ? Its not like doors are open
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FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
Don't you guys get put in jail for posting stuff like this?
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@FloorGenAdm Well there's your extreme right wing in action.
Thatsright · 61-69, M
@FloorGenAdm Wonder if The Metropolitan Police monitor this? Their actions of bothering people from Internet posts saved me from having to go there again. I always tag them in Twitter when there’s disparaging remarks in there for policy/politics in England.
peterlee · M
@Thatsright We have two litmus tests coming up.
The bi election on Thursday will probably be a red herring, with Burnham not able to stand.
The limited number of councils having elections in May might give us an indication of the mood of the country, though I doubt it.
In the meantime the country stagnates.
To think in the last General Election less than 60% bothered to vote. And over 100000 were disenfranchised for having no permanent place of residence.
The bi election on Thursday will probably be a red herring, with Burnham not able to stand.
The limited number of councils having elections in May might give us an indication of the mood of the country, though I doubt it.
In the meantime the country stagnates.
To think in the last General Election less than 60% bothered to vote. And over 100000 were disenfranchised for having no permanent place of residence.
JoyfulSilence · 51-55, M
It could be worse.
I just watched this movie:

I just watched this movie:

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@JoyfulSilence Starmer becomes Lord Protector?
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DogMan · 61-69, M
First and foremost, close the borders and stop the immigration from 3rd world countries.
The countries that are so poorly run that people risk their lives to leave, should be taken
over by the countries receiving their refugees.
The countries that are so poorly run that people risk their lives to leave, should be taken
over by the countries receiving their refugees.
Thinkingdeeper · 36-40, M
But Christianity is on the rise and it is the younger demographics leading it.
GLITTER · 36-40, F
@Thinkingdeeper religion is just a distraction at this point no one respects the basics of what it is. Just another thing to con people out of their freedom
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@Thinkingdeeper In the UK?? That doesn't seen credible. I'd also say the the "Christians" you're seeing are like the USA are seeing which are really not Christian, mostly extreme right wing and are looking to create a theocracy.
GLITTER · 36-40, F
@22Michelle I’m talking about all religions
peterlee · M
@JoyfulSilence There is a great wave entrepreneurship ready to be tapped, if only Reeves had the vision to release it.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@peterlee There is but for some reason we seem unable or unwilling to encourage it, then wonder why it all goes to Japan or the USA while at the same time politicians of all parties go happily on about "inward investment" and "attracting overseas investments" without seeing through it.
TexChik · F
And… it's being colonized by Muslims… without a fight.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@TexChik The "colonisation" statement was made by Sir Jim Radcliff, a businessman who is so principled on the issue of immigration that he has been living in Monaco since 2020 🇲🇨 🇬🇧. He also misrepresented the growth in population by six-fold. His errors were called out by the Prime Minister. Nigel Farage, while acknowledging that the remarks were factually incorrect, then proceeded to compound them with his own, including the inaccurate statement that all underground stations in the East End of London have bilingual signs (only two do).
TexChik · F
@SunshineGirl lying and denying? 😂
GLITTER · 36-40, F
Makes you think that nothing is ever done accidentally and to wonder what the agenda is for the people
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@GLITTER Seize the day, create your own agenda . .
GLITTER · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl oh I do, I don’t fall for this rage bait




















