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If you support the women protesting the clothing protocol of Iran

What do you think of the direct opposite happening in white countries? Where the protocol is counter to said country?

Switzerland
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11307349/Switzerland-proposes-900-fine-covering-face-burqa-ban-law.html
Switzerland has proposed a £900 fine for anyone covering their face under a 'burqa ban' law


Denmark
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/01/danish-burqa-ban-comes-into-effect-amid-protests
Hundreds of Danes rallied in Copenhagen on Wednesday in protest at a new ban on the wearing of face veils in public, accusing the government of infringing women’s right to dress as they choose.

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Fines will range from 1,000 Danish krone (£120) for a first offence to 10,000 krone for a fourth.

France
https://time.com/6049226/france-hijab-ban/
The conflict over one woman’s choice to cover her head comes in the wake of controversy surrounding an amendment passed by the French Senate last month that would ban girls under 18 from wearing the hijab in public. As part of a proposed “anti-separatism” bill, it was presented alongside amendments that would also prevent mothers from wearing hijabs on their children’s school trips and would ban the “burkini,” a full-body swimsuit.


Protests have happened there. Women's rights have been violated. Women are sad there too.

It isn't just white nations only, too. India and China are some popular countries involved in this clear religious/secular oppression.

This culture of favoritism can be demonstrated by people here even on this site having more posts or comments strongly dedicated to Iran right now but have no similar women's rights posts and comments for other women in France, India, Denmark, China, Switzerland and any others participating in barring women from freedom there.

So if you have a greater passion and frustration right now about women's rights for Iran than you did for the opposite, why?

What is it really about? Do women matter? Or do women have to do something to matter? 🤨
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M Best Comment
I think it's stupid. Nobody should be forced to wear a burqa, and nobody should be prevented by law from wearing one.

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I hate any attempts to regulate a woman's choice to wear what she chooses. However, these are not moral equivalents. They are to do with the secularist constitutions of democratic western states which are meant to promote religious plurality and prevent the exploitation and coercion of children. The abuses is Iran are purely and simply authoritarian measures by a theocratic dictatorship.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Iwantyourhotwife Right, so if all government authority were dismissed as being equally authoritarian and illegitimate, where do you think that would leave us on the question of women being able to dress as they wish?
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@SunshineGirl good question. I think that dismissing government authority leads to chaos. During chaos, there is no protection of women's rights and their ability to dress as they please, much like how there is a loss of protection for anything during chaos. Chaos should be avoided at all costs because it leaves the vulnerable in even more incredible weakness.

How would you suggest changes should be brought about in authoritarian regimes?
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Iwantyourhotwife Ideally at the ballot box
Miram · 31-35, F
You make it sound like lot of people are taking action that helps women in Iran.

I don't see that.

There is no favoritism.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@Miram ohhhh, I see. I agree entirely that it's primarily just internet talk and news. My entire point was to not make it a competition and I hopefully didn't word it as such 😅

The aim was show the difference taking place online towards women having sanctuary from oppression and call into reason the general underlying principles that people operate on when talking about these things, in hopes it incites reflection and care for both.

With respect to actual action taking place, I really see no action taking place, and I agree with you. The attention being drawn towards other issues is not intended to diminish from the severity of or entirety of the problem at hand. But rather a hopeful opportunity to show how this matter does not end just this once and that the reason nothing happens is because of this stupid oppressiom olympics rather than a true interest to make change.

Or at least that's why I think nothing happens for this issue .-.
Perhaps I am wrong
Miram · 31-35, F
@Iwantyourhotwife

You're part of the problem. You don't care either.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@Miram perhaps I am. But maybe there is room for change

Edit: And I was rereading this and realized that you asserted I do not care. Me not being to help doesn't impact how much I care or that I would. This was not true
It's about freedom. In countries like Iran, women are beaten or killed for not wearing the hijab. In western countries, women can wear the hijab if they want, but they don't have to.
As for Europeans saying that a ban on face coverings infringes on freedom, they're right.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@BohemianBabe I am not sure you read my post, then. You can also view the sources and even verify the laws about France yourself. Just have a closer look
@Iwantyourhotwife Are you aware that hijabs don't cover the face?
You sources are about clothing that covers the face, such as the burka.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@BohemianBabe my friend. I know hijabs are not burqas. I know that the hijab we talk avout is the khimaar for women. Please, just reread the source about France. I'll double check it later myself and try to find the laws too maybe. But I believe they reference the hijab
deadgerbil · 26-30
I feel like both restrict people's rights. People should be able to wear what they want. The toxic extremism on one side leads to an extreme push back from the other side. The latter enjoys some favoritism bc it's pushing back against the toxic manifestation of stupid beliefs and preventing them from taking root in their own countries, but it's at the expense of people's overall well being and liberty to truly be free and wear what they want.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@deadgerbil
The latter enjoys some favoritism bc it's pushing back against the toxic manifestation of stupid beliefs and preventing them from taking root in their own countries

Not only am I calling out this clear favoritism, I am addressing how it wasn't ever about women. Because some women are "stupid" or follow "stupid beliefs" according that and not only do many others believe this specious reasoning, but this is what has impacted how much they matter to others. Because we all know stupid people and intelligent people aren't the same.

Know that subversion and imperialism will continue so long as this supremacist sentiment is harbored. It's been a long tactic to dehumanize others and belittle their belief to justify their demise.

And I would love for anyone who looks down on another set of beliefs to justify and substantiate such sentiment.
Budwick · 70-79, M
I think Iran is near a tipping point.
People are generally frustrated with authoritarian regime.
The girl that was killed for showing some hair the other day was a spark that ignited riots across the country.
The people will need to organize if they want to be successful.
Otherwise, the government will simply kill all the dissenters.
SUPERVlXEN · F
It's about female suppression and the freedom to choose for oneself, not to be dictated by any religion nor any doctrines or laws discriminating towards any specific demographic group(s) in society.
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
If you choose not to wear it your options are death, being beaten, and told you're going to hell. I personally believe this laws in other countries are giving some of the women that are forced into wearing it an opportunity to be free.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@SkeetSkeet I get where you are coming from. Just consider this one thing for a second 👀

What can a woman who picks it and likes it do to wear hijab without being punished? Because opportunity is a beautiful thing. It means you have a chance to decide or get something. Giving anyone forced a way out is good but what if a woman wants to wear the hijab? 👀
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Nightmare on SW - sounds like a good film 😅@Iwantyourhotwife
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@SStarfish lolololol, I would pay to watch that 😂

 
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