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Women "lose their value"

According to the Taliban, "women lose their value if anyone sees their face in public" and this is why they demand that women wear the full on burqa or chaadar covering them from head to toe. According to the Taliban, "A women has her own value and that value decreases when men look at her". I spent several years in Afghanistan since 2001 and many of the women I met were intelligent, elegant and certainly a lot smarter than their male counterparts and their value as persons certainly wasn't diminished by being able to see their faces. I am gay so therefor have no sexual interest in women but I sure prefer to see someone's face when I'm talking to them rather than some cloth sack with a pair of eyes... So by how much is their "value diminished", 10 goats less if a man has seen their face?
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SW-User
Men lose their value the minute they try to tell women what to do.
@SW-User men never have value to women at all to begin with
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spjennifer · 61-69, T
@unsociableAnthony Where do you get that from this post?
SW-User
Those religious fanatics can't be reasoned with. Should be shipped to Mars or yet better the sun where they can talk about values all they want
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@SW-User And that is the damage that religious fanaticism causes because they have the power of Allah (God) behind them, they think only they know what is right for everyone.
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
rather than some cloth sack with a pair of eyes
You talk like they lose value by covering up. Reduced to a cloth sack for covering up, accoeding to you

What happened to women's value there?
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@Annie13 okay, we're finally making some sort of progress. If this whole time you're talking about imposing the burqa, that makes a lot more sense and I can agree. Since your entry, it sounded like you were attacking the culture and clothing of women who wear it voluntarily
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Iwantyourhotwife Ok, well, we're done here, if you're using someone else's account, why don't you grow a pair and get an account of your own...
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@spjennifer I like it. It's a unique experience. And I got friends on SW who trust me

Makes it fun but then I risk having to be recognized by a username like this sometimes 😅
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
I feel for innocent people over there.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The value of a woman in their eyes is measured solely in terms of attractiveness and utility to themselves.
@SunshineGirl Alas, that attitude is not unique to that part of the world; it’s just among the most extreme examples of it. The fact that Afghani women once had more rights and access to education, etc. is a scary warning about what can happen if extremist groups get a foothold in a country’s government and chip away at civil rights…😞
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard That is the cruellest part of all. Afghani girls had good educational opportunities in comparison to the region as a whole. Women benefited from a more secular society. Those people will feel the loss of their freedoms even more keenly 😞
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
I love hardline religious conservatism
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
@deadgerbil cover your face
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
@SkeetSkeet our marriage,,

The Taliban is of no value because they oppress 50% of their population due to religious bigotry. So their country loses out on important resources, minds, ideas that the other percentage could provide. I don’t understand why the people don’t band together and get rid of them.
SW-User
@bijouxbroussard Interesting, I'm not questioning you. I didn't know this history. I remember watching a documentary about Afghanistan, where for a period of time in (I think) in the 70s where Afghanistan was relatively rich, but with years of endless proxy wars between the US and Russia led Afghanistan to 3rd world country status, poverty, endless war, violence and where the Taliban rose to power.

What you expressed doesn't contradict my learning, more that it offers a window before I didn't know. It's dangerous, sad, how our rich lives in our western countries (now) have come from the fruits of war from the loss to others..
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@bijouxbroussard Sadly, they don't band together to get rid of the Taliban because theirs is a culture of fear, fear of the druglords and the Taliban who have ruled through violence and subjugation. Before the Taliban came to exist in the mid 90's to oppose the druglords, the druglords ruled with their own private armies which the Soviet Union sought to eradicate before that, like others before them, they failed too.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard To put it simply, the Taliban are deeply embedded in the social fabric and are able to provide security and basic services that the previous government, imposed by the coalition and riddled with corruption, could not. They may be toxic to one half of the population, but I guess they are broadly appealing to the other half 😐
Fascists in the west are no protection from women hating men.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Roundandroundwego Have you ever lived in or even visited Afghanistan?
I seriously doubt you have as evidenced by your misogynist comments. I wasn't "dismissing" you as much as I was trying to understand what the hell you were babbling about???
@spjennifer wanta try walking home from work in Boston at night when they are men with beer and cars? Taliban sounds better. Better than Harvard men!
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Roundandroundwego Yes, I'm sure your "Boston men" drive around with AK47's too, don't they... Get a clue already 🙄
Renaci · 36-40
Anyone that thinks such a thing literally has no value imo.
SW-User
They should all be exterminated. Primitive animals.
helenS · 36-40, F
@spjennifer How many Taliban monsters are there? What's their percentage compared to the entire population, in your informed opinion?
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@helenS The real hard core Taliban only comprise maybe 20% of the male population of Afghanistan, the unarmed rest are intimidated by them or the drug warlords. You have to remember that this is a backwards Nation where many places don't have power or running water still, few schools and constant food shortages now are the norm. Outside of the major cities, it's pretty sad...
helenS · 36-40, F
@spjennifer Thank you very much – in case like that I always hope for a revolution of the people against their oppressors.
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