I think Christians like to think their moral foundation is OBJECTIVE but i believe in fact it is fundamentally SUBJECTIVE.I think i can prove it too.

@SW-User

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain it to me without the use of jargon?

@Pikachu He can't. And he also can't explain why, when Christianity is supposed to represent freedom from the law, Christian churches have historically persecuted non-Christians.

@Pikachu In your opening statement, I assumed you understood ‘god ‘s law’. My mistake , sorry.

I assume the other ‘jargon’ relates to my usage of British English.

Had you been in England, I would have suggested you read Nicky Gumbels: Questions of Life, or followed an Alpha course. They would give you the basics.

Your colleague has introduced the term ‘persecution ‘. I do not recall mentioning that. Maybe he is referring to some other post.

@SW-User

ok...sorry to have offended you. Sometimes people who have lived in a religion don't understand when phrases or terms that are familiar to them don't have the same obvious meaning to the outsider.
I do understand what is meant by god's law. Not sure what you mean by the rest of it.

So if you could explain the point you were attempting to make without the jargon i'd appreciate.
Otherwise i don't know how to move on from here lol

@SW-User I mention it because if Christianity means freedom from God's law, someone needs to tell that to the church.

@LordShadowfire I think I agree with you. I don’t know which ‘church’ you are referring to. In England the ‘Anglican church leaders’ make woke statements which have little to do with Christianity.
They would do well to reflect on the advice given by Paul in his ancient letter to the Galatians. One of, and perhaps the oldest book in the New Testament. Paul suggests you avoid fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hostilities, uncleanness, licentiousness, strife, jealousy, bursts of rage, selfish ambition, factiousness, moods of envy, drunkenness. Some seem a bit archaic but others resonate.

As for persecution, the ‘churches’’attitude has been shocking. Again in England, the early Tudor Anglicans gave the Anabaptists a third baptism. They drowned them. And in the next century, Anglicans had Oliver Plunkett hung, drawn and quartered because of his faith. Absolutely disgusting.

Christian faith is personal. It’s about having a relationship with the Living God. And that centres on the efficacy of the Cross.

@SW-User There have been various church organizations over the centuries which have been rather oppressive, and I suppose I should be more specific what I mean. But there are just so many specific examples of church sanctioned violence, torture, and even genocide.
I'm sorry, I don't understand. How does being aware of the struggles of other racial groups conflict with the Bible?
I wasn't aware of that. It seems Paul had more to do with shaping Christianity than even I realized.

@SW-User

I disagree.
Name a action that you consider to be objectively wrong under Christianity.

@Pikachu I feared this might lead into an unhelpful debate. I wish you well.

@Pikachu I think that means he can't answer.

@LordShadowfire It does indeed. I’ll leave you to meditate on the meaning of the Cross, and see how it challenges you.

@SW-User Yeah, you can't answer a simple morality question, so I don't think I'll be trying that.

@LordShadowfire are you they other guy’s glove puppet?

@SW-User No, last I checked, there's no hand up my ass. How about yours?

@SW-User

Cool. Next time you show up in one of my threads, be at least a little more organized in your thoughts and prepared to discuss the subject.

Throwing a flashbang of faith jargon and then fleeing is kind of a waste of everyone's time 😉

@Pikachu and you learn a little about Christianity.

I’m sure there is an American equivalent to Alpha you might join.

You seem to be very interested in Christianity. So why not venture into one. It may change your life.

@Pikachu I'm starting to wonder if @SW-User isn't some kind of bot.

@SW-User

Gosh, if only you'd actually had the wherewithal to have the discussion, you might know what i do or do not know about Christianity.😏

You're not prepared to engage in the discussion. You may go now.

@Pikachu Keep searchin.

@SW-User

I won't.😁
And ask yourself if your approach is likely to convince anyone to "keep searchin" lol

@Pikachu it certainly has challenged you though.

@SW-User

lol no. My dude. *face palm*
It literally has not because there's nothing to take you up on.
You've said nothing, you've communicated nothing. I even explained to you that you weren't communicating effectively and you just tucked your tail and gave up.

Again, ask yourself if your approach is likely to convince anyone to "keep searchin" lol