There are many people today that stand in judgement of God. Especially many atheists, who question the morality of God.
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DaddyThomas · 41-45, M
Very nice for you that you’ve such a strong belief that there is a god.
There are 40 authors of the books of the Bible. Most of them we know, but there are anonymous writers too. Some of the authors wrote one book, some wrote several.
Moses is credited for the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy which are called the Pentetuch. These books cover creation to his own death at the end of Deuteronomy. It's been suggested that another person, who took over the spiritual leadership of the Israelites, completed Deuteronomy.
The books of Joshua, Judges, and Ruth are historical documents written before or during the reign of King David presumably by priestly historians.
The Psalms were written by King David, Moses, Solomon, the sons of Korah, the sons of Asaph and Ethan the Ezrahite. There are also some Psalms that were written anonymously.
Proverbs, Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes were written by King Solomon, though chapters 30 and 31 of Proverbs were written by Agur and Lemuel respectively.
Isaiah, Hosea, Amos, Jonah, Micah, Nahum and Zephaniah were the prophets who penned the books with their names.
The writers of Samuel, Kings, Esther, and Job are unnamed.
Habakkuk, Joel, Obadiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi were written by the prophets' named respectively.
Jeremiah wrote both Lamentations and Jeremiah while Ezra wrote Ezra, Nehemiah and possibly Chronicles.
In the New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote their gospels and Luke also wrote the book of Acts. Paul is responsible for the Pauline Letters which are Romans, 1st Corinthians, 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st Thessalonians, 2nd Thessalonians, 1st Timothy, 2nd Timothy, Titus, and Philemon.
Peter of the Twelve Disciples wrote 1st and 2nd Peter. John, the Disciple that Jesus loved, wrote 1st, 2nd, and 3rd John and also Revelation.
The book of James has been credited to James the brother of Jesus and the book of Jude was written by Jude the bother of James. Hebrews has been ascribed to the Apostle Paul but is generally considered to have been written anonymously.
The writings of the apostel Thomas are not in the Bible as Thomas stated that you don’t need priests to study the Bible and worship god.
It’s a great and classic book with many answers but don’t depend your life on it.
There are 40 authors of the books of the Bible. Most of them we know, but there are anonymous writers too. Some of the authors wrote one book, some wrote several.
Moses is credited for the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy which are called the Pentetuch. These books cover creation to his own death at the end of Deuteronomy. It's been suggested that another person, who took over the spiritual leadership of the Israelites, completed Deuteronomy.
The books of Joshua, Judges, and Ruth are historical documents written before or during the reign of King David presumably by priestly historians.
The Psalms were written by King David, Moses, Solomon, the sons of Korah, the sons of Asaph and Ethan the Ezrahite. There are also some Psalms that were written anonymously.
Proverbs, Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes were written by King Solomon, though chapters 30 and 31 of Proverbs were written by Agur and Lemuel respectively.
Isaiah, Hosea, Amos, Jonah, Micah, Nahum and Zephaniah were the prophets who penned the books with their names.
The writers of Samuel, Kings, Esther, and Job are unnamed.
Habakkuk, Joel, Obadiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi were written by the prophets' named respectively.
Jeremiah wrote both Lamentations and Jeremiah while Ezra wrote Ezra, Nehemiah and possibly Chronicles.
In the New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote their gospels and Luke also wrote the book of Acts. Paul is responsible for the Pauline Letters which are Romans, 1st Corinthians, 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st Thessalonians, 2nd Thessalonians, 1st Timothy, 2nd Timothy, Titus, and Philemon.
Peter of the Twelve Disciples wrote 1st and 2nd Peter. John, the Disciple that Jesus loved, wrote 1st, 2nd, and 3rd John and also Revelation.
The book of James has been credited to James the brother of Jesus and the book of Jude was written by Jude the bother of James. Hebrews has been ascribed to the Apostle Paul but is generally considered to have been written anonymously.
The writings of the apostel Thomas are not in the Bible as Thomas stated that you don’t need priests to study the Bible and worship god.
It’s a great and classic book with many answers but don’t depend your life on it.
LeopoldBloom · M
If someone doesn't believe God exists, they're not "standing in judgment of God" any more than you stand in judgment of Harry Potter. What we're criticizing is his fictional characterization and the behavior of people who claim to believe in him and use him as justification for their own bad behavior.
Your opinion of God is just as fleeting and transitory as the concepts you criticize in others. You're using "God" as shorthand for your own personal views, while citing your particular interpretation of the Bible as an appeal to authority. You have no objective standard for truth or morality, either. All of the critiques you level at us could be applied to you.
Your opinion of God is just as fleeting and transitory as the concepts you criticize in others. You're using "God" as shorthand for your own personal views, while citing your particular interpretation of the Bible as an appeal to authority. You have no objective standard for truth or morality, either. All of the critiques you level at us could be applied to you.
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BibleThumpingReligiousZealot · 31-35, M
@LeopoldBloom Haha. The amount of mental gymnastics you are using in order to evade what the Bible clearly says is hilarious. Anyone can open up the Bible and see what it says for themselves. Ironically, you would rather come up with some farfetched and ridiculous interpretation because the truth hurts. If projection was a degree, you'd have a doctorate, mate.
Also, we don't have the original Hebrew today, we have modern Hebrew which is very different from Biblical Hebrew. Modern Hebrew is a language that was invented in the 1800's. Hebrew was a dead language for almost two thousand years. As early as 200 AD no one was speaking Hebrew as their native language. It was a dead language all the way until the 1800's when the Zionist movement decided to try to revive a dead language - the Hebrew language and revived it and created modern Hebrew.
I have no fear of homosexuals and homosexuality, so homophobic is actually a misnormer. I just hate it because it's evil and God hates it. Romans 1 and many other passages confirm this. Your parroted talking point about those who hate the sin of homosexuality because they may be gay themselves is laughable. This comes from the demented and perverted mind of Sigmund (Sickmind) Freud, a complete crank and most of his ideas have been completely debunked. Not surprised you're using them.
At the end of the day, you wish to escape reality. You can only do so for so long. Eventually it is going to catch up to you. You are going to die one day. 10 out of 10 people die, and you will know the truth. Don't wait till then to find out. I just prayed for you. I prayed that God would bless you, do good unto you and that you would be led to Him. I pray that you would escape Satan's snare and remove the spiritual blindfold that he has placed over you.
Also, we don't have the original Hebrew today, we have modern Hebrew which is very different from Biblical Hebrew. Modern Hebrew is a language that was invented in the 1800's. Hebrew was a dead language for almost two thousand years. As early as 200 AD no one was speaking Hebrew as their native language. It was a dead language all the way until the 1800's when the Zionist movement decided to try to revive a dead language - the Hebrew language and revived it and created modern Hebrew.
I have no fear of homosexuals and homosexuality, so homophobic is actually a misnormer. I just hate it because it's evil and God hates it. Romans 1 and many other passages confirm this. Your parroted talking point about those who hate the sin of homosexuality because they may be gay themselves is laughable. This comes from the demented and perverted mind of Sigmund (Sickmind) Freud, a complete crank and most of his ideas have been completely debunked. Not surprised you're using them.
At the end of the day, you wish to escape reality. You can only do so for so long. Eventually it is going to catch up to you. You are going to die one day. 10 out of 10 people die, and you will know the truth. Don't wait till then to find out. I just prayed for you. I prayed that God would bless you, do good unto you and that you would be led to Him. I pray that you would escape Satan's snare and remove the spiritual blindfold that he has placed over you.
LeopoldBloom · M
@BibleThumpingReligiousZealot I'm reading it literally instead of misinterpreting a bad translation to conform to my own personal opinion, the way you're doing. My quote wasn't modern Hebrew either, professor; it was the original version. You don't have to school me on the history of the language.
I used the term "homophobia" colloquially to refer to the fear and hatred of gay men. I can only speculate why you feel this way. If you want to make believe that it's only because of what you think you're reading in your Bible, don't let me stop you. My citation has nothing to do with Freud; it's from a modern, peer-reviewed study where the penile circumference of male subjects was measured in response to various stimuli.
[c=003BB2]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/[/c]
The term used by the demented Paul of Tarsus was "arsenokoitai," a word that appears nowhere else and is thought to refer to ritual sex in pagan temples of the time. In Matthew 8:5-13, Jesus approves of a gay relationship. The word used to describe the servant, "pais," in other contemporary writing appears as an affectionate term for a gay lover, like "my boy."
Female humans have XX chromosomes; males have XY. While parthenogenesis has never been observed in humans, if that was the "miracle" of Jesus' birth, he had to be genetically female as he would have only had XX chromosomes from his mother. Yet he presented as a male, leading to the inescapable conclusion that he must have been a trans man. This would be similar to Buck Angel, who was born female but later transitioned to male.
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This theory is supported by the fact that Jesus himself never explicitly condemned homosexuality or sexual transitioning.
You think you're reading the Bible literally; I think I am, too. Since you claim to be so close to God, send him to the room I'm in now and ask him to explain what those passages mean.
I used the term "homophobia" colloquially to refer to the fear and hatred of gay men. I can only speculate why you feel this way. If you want to make believe that it's only because of what you think you're reading in your Bible, don't let me stop you. My citation has nothing to do with Freud; it's from a modern, peer-reviewed study where the penile circumference of male subjects was measured in response to various stimuli.
[c=003BB2]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/[/c]
The term used by the demented Paul of Tarsus was "arsenokoitai," a word that appears nowhere else and is thought to refer to ritual sex in pagan temples of the time. In Matthew 8:5-13, Jesus approves of a gay relationship. The word used to describe the servant, "pais," in other contemporary writing appears as an affectionate term for a gay lover, like "my boy."
Female humans have XX chromosomes; males have XY. While parthenogenesis has never been observed in humans, if that was the "miracle" of Jesus' birth, he had to be genetically female as he would have only had XX chromosomes from his mother. Yet he presented as a male, leading to the inescapable conclusion that he must have been a trans man. This would be similar to Buck Angel, who was born female but later transitioned to male.
This theory is supported by the fact that Jesus himself never explicitly condemned homosexuality or sexual transitioning.
You think you're reading the Bible literally; I think I am, too. Since you claim to be so close to God, send him to the room I'm in now and ask him to explain what those passages mean.
DocSavage · M
A recent event brings up an intriguing spin on this subject, maybe you heard about it. In Chesapeake, Va . A school granted a permit for an “after school “ club to assemble on the grounds. The club teaches science, critical thinking skills, and social equality .The group is sponsored by the Satanic Temple. One of their meetings was disrupted when someone (presumably a theist ) phoned in a bomb threat. Endangering the students that attended. Several Christians are calling for the school board to remove the permit. Despite the fact they have no legal or moral right to do so.
The Christians believe they are righteous, in denying a rival religious group the same privileges they , themselves are entitled to.
Do you believe this should be the case ,God’s word over the word of law and order ?
The Christians believe they are righteous, in denying a rival religious group the same privileges they , themselves are entitled to.
Do you believe this should be the case ,God’s word over the word of law and order ?
DocSavage · M
@Johnconnor so far , the Satanic temple is winning. Someone (theist) called in a bomb threat. That’s not sitting well with the people and the school board.
Johnconnor · 31-35, M
@DocSavage It was wrong to call in a Bomb Threat. There would have been other ways to handle. But basically, we don't normally even name our children "Satan" or "Lucifer". Do we?
There is something which is bad us bad. Eyeing on someone else's property is bad and no one can make it good.
Till it not happened in America, it was not falling. Infact it was World number 1. It's dismantling started with the introduction of all these things, concerts of Marilyn Manson who have a Satanic theme. Any country, till now has been successful when it walks on the path of righteousness. When we lose it, we Lowe our nation, sense of nationhood like we are losing now. Foreign people are coming and enslaving us and we don't even know. Respect for the God and culture brings self confidence and fame.
There is something which is bad us bad. Eyeing on someone else's property is bad and no one can make it good.
Till it not happened in America, it was not falling. Infact it was World number 1. It's dismantling started with the introduction of all these things, concerts of Marilyn Manson who have a Satanic theme. Any country, till now has been successful when it walks on the path of righteousness. When we lose it, we Lowe our nation, sense of nationhood like we are losing now. Foreign people are coming and enslaving us and we don't even know. Respect for the God and culture brings self confidence and fame.
DocSavage · M
@Johnconnor
Righteousness is a tricky term. Some times it takes a strong jolt to shake us out complacency. Recently , Christian nationalists have been on the rise. I admit, I prefer separation of church and state. It takes more dramatic actions to keep it.
Righteousness is a tricky term. Some times it takes a strong jolt to shake us out complacency. Recently , Christian nationalists have been on the rise. I admit, I prefer separation of church and state. It takes more dramatic actions to keep it.
Spoiledbrat · F
Johnconnor · 31-35, M
@Pikachu You have got a tongue by which you judge the taste of your food and accordingly you eat? The tongue is a gift of God.
Emosaur · 22-25, M
Johnconnor · 31-35, M
@Emosaur The maintainable of Free Will in itself calls for alot of chaos. Look at any modern day society which could easily curb any mass movement with its force but they don't, to get our free will unhampered. The same way, The maintainable of free will alone gives a mind multi dimensions to think. If those multi dimensions are taken away, the human will turn into machines which our LIVE GOD would not want with HIS OWN creations. To provide that multi dimensional thought, free will, which includes Good will as well as bad will taken together.
[b]What you are trying to convey is as If you are engaged in cocaine smuggling and when someone asks you to be a nice person then you are asking God to eradicate all the opium plants from its root because if it's there, you are always going to smuggle. But what you are forgetting here is that opium plant is a living creature too and it never says, "come @Emosaur , make cocaine out of me.[/b]
Now, I have given you an example too, if you contemplate on it, it will answer your any further query too.
[b]What you are trying to convey is as If you are engaged in cocaine smuggling and when someone asks you to be a nice person then you are asking God to eradicate all the opium plants from its root because if it's there, you are always going to smuggle. But what you are forgetting here is that opium plant is a living creature too and it never says, "come @Emosaur , make cocaine out of me.[/b]
Now, I have given you an example too, if you contemplate on it, it will answer your any further query too.
Emosaur · 22-25, M
@Johnconnor 1. Source?
2. If no then you're describing your god as both all-powerful AND not all-powerful, but that's a contradiction, and contradictory things and beings cannot logically exist, so basically you just admitted your god doesn't exist.
2. If no then you're describing your god as both all-powerful AND not all-powerful, but that's a contradiction, and contradictory things and beings cannot logically exist, so basically you just admitted your god doesn't exist.
Johnconnor · 31-35, M
@Emosaur It is your disapproval in your silent approval. Thank you.
DocSavage · M
[quote] People are capable of being good without believing in God because God wrote the law in their hearts. [/quote]
Or, maybe people just choose to be good. It’s an arrogant assumption to believe morality is rooted in god. Social interaction is a more likely cause. Ethnics and morality promote mutual benefits and elevate the whole community. Evolution is equally as well an answer rather than god. It’s simply better to work together for common goals than against each other. You give god too much credit.
Or, maybe people just choose to be good. It’s an arrogant assumption to believe morality is rooted in god. Social interaction is a more likely cause. Ethnics and morality promote mutual benefits and elevate the whole community. Evolution is equally as well an answer rather than god. It’s simply better to work together for common goals than against each other. You give god too much credit.
DocSavage · M
[quote] Don't worship your own limited and faulty mind. The atheist worships his own intellect and reasoning. Just think about it: the intellect and reasoning that the atheist worships comes from a limited brain that can only detect 0.0035 percent of the electromagnetic spectrum -visible light - (of which that entire electromagnetic spectrum itself is only a fraction of what can be seen [/quote]
Humans , theist or Atheist have the same limitations. Your point is irrelevant. The Bible is a couple of thousand years old. The people who wrote it could not even conceive the modern world. God hasn’t added anything new to it Since then.
Atheist prefer to think in modern times, not Old Testaments.
Humans , theist or Atheist have the same limitations. Your point is irrelevant. The Bible is a couple of thousand years old. The people who wrote it could not even conceive the modern world. God hasn’t added anything new to it Since then.
Atheist prefer to think in modern times, not Old Testaments.
BlueSkyKing · M
The word “moral” appears nowhere in the bible. Neither does “morality,” “ethics” or “ethical.” People are fully capable of being good without bowing to a deity.
BlueSkyKing · M
@BibleThumpingReligiousZealot Those who can look at the bible objectively, who are not handicapped with the requirement that it be worshiped or respected, notice that there are problems with using it as a guide for behavior:
The bible argues from authority, not from reason, claiming that “might makes right.”
The bible nowhere states that every human being possesses an inherent right to be treated with respect and fairness—humans don’t matter as much as God does.
The biblical role models are very poor moral examples, often ignoring their own good teachings (what few there are) and ruthlessly pursuing their own tyrannical teachings.
Many moral precepts of the bible are just plain bad, even dangerous.
On closer inspection, the few “positive” teachings are uninspired, unoriginal, inadequate and irrelevant.
The bible argues from authority, not from reason, claiming that “might makes right.”
The bible nowhere states that every human being possesses an inherent right to be treated with respect and fairness—humans don’t matter as much as God does.
The biblical role models are very poor moral examples, often ignoring their own good teachings (what few there are) and ruthlessly pursuing their own tyrannical teachings.
Many moral precepts of the bible are just plain bad, even dangerous.
On closer inspection, the few “positive” teachings are uninspired, unoriginal, inadequate and irrelevant.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@BlueSkyKing The Bible does not teach morality. It teaches complete obedience and total loyalty to the Boss (God, the chief priest, the emperor, the king, the family father). Disobedience to any of them warrants the death penalty.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@BlueSkyKing The Bible was written as propaganda to counter the Islamic Koran, which had been written in the 640s. The Bible was written in the 680s-early 690s. The Christians did not have a single book for its fairytale so, once the Muslims came out with the Koran, they needed one to get the local farm boys fired up to go on killing sprees against the invading Muslims. That is why the Bible contains lots of stories about God commanding the Israelites to kill everyone and everything. It's hard to get people to do such things by human direction but if God says to do it, then it's OK.
Remember, some very horrific acts are not sins but lots of silly things are. That is where the total obedience and total loyalty come in. People are commanded to follow their leader's orders, regardless of what those orders are, because God appointed those leaders and they are doing his will.
Remember, some very horrific acts are not sins but lots of silly things are. That is where the total obedience and total loyalty come in. People are commanded to follow their leader's orders, regardless of what those orders are, because God appointed those leaders and they are doing his will.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
[@BibleThumpingReligiousZealo] Remember, when Eve & Adam ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they knew as much about those issues as God. Therefore, people can judge God's actions. And, people will judge angels. Someone has to be very smart to judge creatures he has never met.
softspokenman · M
You will have people who agree with everything you say and there will be people who will disagree. They will explain why they do. They will serve to reassure you that you are right, and they are wrong. Together they will give you the attention that you seek.
DocSavage · M
A quick question. Is earth the only planet with life on it ?
Morality is cultural, does god’s moral code extend to the rest of the universe?
Morality is cultural, does god’s moral code extend to the rest of the universe?
Sorry mate.. I can’t read your ‘book’ tonight. Maybe tomorrow…
I will tho
I will tho
Tennessean · 31-35, F
Why did God make Tennessee more beautiful and better than Alabama?
Tennessean · 31-35, F
Why did God make Tennessee?
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