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redredred · M
Nope, I don’t believe in any silly Bronze Age superstitions.
redredred · M
@SpiritualMan “he”doesn’t exist, dope. It’s a painfully childish myth virtually identical with Santa Claus or the Easter bunny.
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Incomplet · 22-25
People have been saying that for 2000 years!
It hasn't happened!
Why hasn't it happened?
Does God like watching his Flock Suffer?
Nooo! It was just a Sales Gimmick by the egotistical Apostle Paul (the supposed Founder of this New Religion) to get more people to Join Up during the times when things were tough, and Christians were persecuted still.
And Paul was Competing with other faiths/religions of Mandaeism, Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, Buddhism, and Pagan Gods of all Sorts!!
So the CHRISTIAN GOD Bringing His People To HEAVEN (your Rapture) was a Novel New Thing and Sounded Good to IGNORANT PEOPLE to whom Fire was still magic!
It hasn't happened!
Why hasn't it happened?
Does God like watching his Flock Suffer?
Nooo! It was just a Sales Gimmick by the egotistical Apostle Paul (the supposed Founder of this New Religion) to get more people to Join Up during the times when things were tough, and Christians were persecuted still.
And Paul was Competing with other faiths/religions of Mandaeism, Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, Buddhism, and Pagan Gods of all Sorts!!
So the CHRISTIAN GOD Bringing His People To HEAVEN (your Rapture) was a Novel New Thing and Sounded Good to IGNORANT PEOPLE to whom Fire was still magic!
SomeMichGuy · M
@Incomplet Saul -> Paul didn't found it; in fact, he was there (as Saul) at the stoning of Stephen, the first recorded martyr after Jesus.
I think it can be true even if not as typically understood.
But that's for a book...
I think it can be true even if not as typically understood.
But that's for a book...
Incomplet · 22-25
@SomeMichGuy 🤷🏻♀️ Whomever!
It WAS AND STILL IS An Effective Crowd gathering Device for Bringing in Insecure Needy Scared People without Good Critical Thinking Skills !
It WAS AND STILL IS An Effective Crowd gathering Device for Bringing in Insecure Needy Scared People without Good Critical Thinking Skills !
SpiritualMan · M
Jesus appeared in the clouds in 70 AD, especially during the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans. The period of peace, prosperity, and righteousness will come next, possibly soon, and then after that, the Gog/Magog war, TOTAL destruction as everything is burned in fire, the Final Judgment, and then the New Heaven and New Earth. There might be a rapture connected with the TOTAL destruction after the Gog/Magog war. The bible verses that talk about the rapture do not connect it with the Tribulation, we only READ INTO the verses ASSUMING that is what it means. Nothing in the biblical language or Greek says that it MUST be The Tribulation and then IMMEDIATELY the 1,000 years, in fact some scholars say that the Greek Grammar says that the 1,000 could be a long period of time after the Tribulation.
SomeMichGuy · M
Whether it occurs or not does not impact my faith, and, frankly, is above my paygrade.
I cannot affect it by worrying about it, discussing it, conjecturing about it, etc.
So I view such things as striving after wind.
I cannot affect it by worrying about it, discussing it, conjecturing about it, etc.
So I view such things as striving after wind.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
Phil 2
10 at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
Phil 2
10 at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
SomeMichGuy · M
shuhak · M
Depends on how you define "rapture". Yes, I believe the verse you quoted. However, I do not believe in a "thousand year reign" on earth. Nor do I believe that the unrighteous will stay on earth for a period of time after the righteous are raised.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@shuhak
Remember, according to the fairy tale lots of people will be locked out of the golden cube.
Revelation 22:14-15 (CEV) ="14 God will bless all who have washed their robes. They will each have the right to eat fruit from the tree that gives life, and they can enter the gates of the city. 15 But outside the city will be dogs, witches, immoral people, murderers, idol worshipers, and everyone who loves to tell lies and do wrong."
Depends on how you define "rapture". Yes, I believe the verse you quoted. However, I do not believe in a "thousand year reign" on earth. Nor do I believe that the unrighteous will stay on earth for a period of time after the righteous are raised.
Remember, according to the fairy tale lots of people will be locked out of the golden cube.
Revelation 22:14-15 (CEV) ="14 God will bless all who have washed their robes. They will each have the right to eat fruit from the tree that gives life, and they can enter the gates of the city. 15 But outside the city will be dogs, witches, immoral people, murderers, idol worshipers, and everyone who loves to tell lies and do wrong."
Sigil · 56-60, M
Do you mean after the torture that happened to him last time he was here? Yeah, yeah he’s coming back. Gonna sell used cars so he can save up to buy his own place!
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Are you going to be raptured? I'll make a cash offer for your stuff. Don't worry, i'll have an attorney do the paperwork and escrow.
black4white · 56-60, M
WTF !?!?! you have got to be kidding me... why would someone come back to this hell hole? LMAO
littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M
Sometimes I just feel hopeless. And sometimes I think whatever happens it's for good.
SW-User
Paul and possibly Timothy’s words. Not God’s.
Dacrowman · 70-79, M
💤💤💤
Morvoren · F
So long as he wipes his feet before he walks in the hall either is good.
Midnightoker1 · 61-69, M
After the Rapture, can I have your car?
Dacrowman · 70-79, M
Jesus was awesome on Saturday
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
That would require him to come back.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SpiritualMan Name even one of the alleged hundreds of people who witnessed this. Prove to me those people existed.
SpiritualMan · M
@LordShadowfire in the writings of Josephus, ancient Jewish historian.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SpiritualMan So your evidence for the existence of those people is because another dead guy wrote about them.