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Dissatisfied with myself

I got a bachelor degree and I became the lunch lady at the school getting minimum wage. I had a teaching job but the behaviors were just so outrageous it wasn’t worth my sanity. I feel like I can’t believe I went through all that schooling just to become a lunch lady. I love the lunch position and I’m happy doing it but I am dissatisfied with the pay and hours and respect. I don’t even know if I like teaching anymore. I thought I knew what I wanted when I was going to school but that now I’m in the working world I am truly confused and don’t know how to navigate further.
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WillaKissing · 56-60, M
I have friend(s) that got a political science degree and went into banking to become bank presidents and leaders. There are so many professional skills jobs out there that only care that you completed a 4-year degree that you can use your degree to get a job at. Look at state, Your countries government and city job postings as well. Think broadly/Broader and not just what field you got your degree in.
WillaKissing · 56-60, M
@Fifidog Any that require a degree completion in the administration, human resourcing. You have degree in education so look into school administration, Legal, all kinds really all you have to do is go on the Government job list postings and work through what you may think you would like to do and read the requirements. Maybe the prerequisites you have taken to attain your degree an apply to other fields too. Read through and market yourself to your interest fields.
Fifidog · 26-30, F
@WillaKissing that’s awesome thanks! I’m looking into it right now
WillaKissing · 56-60, M
@Fifidog Good luck, and I am glad you are.
Dust057 · 46-50
reading your thoughts, I'm guessing you had an idea of what teaching would be like (rewarding, fun), but it wasn't like that when you got in (the behaviors).

Maybe you can still teach and create that environment that you imagined when you first wanted to teach? But maybe the school you are/were at is not the right place for it? Maybe a smaller school? A private school, or a different age range? Montessori or Waldorf perhaps? Or private tutoring, online teaching, teaching in another country? There are many different cultures out there, some of whom treat teachers quite differently.

Or perhaps it's not the system that needs to change, and you could use some more skills in how to deal with "behaviors"? I'm currently a Registered Behavioral Therapist, and I think the tools and skills I've learned in this job are amazing and wonderful to apply in many other disciplines, teaching included. But you know how some kids are perfect angels like say with their parents, but then around the grandparents they become monsters? Or vice versa, because they know they have to toe the line with grandma, but their parents are lax. It's not about the kid, it's about the adult and the kid knows what they can and cannot get away with. To me, just off hand it sounds like the kids knew they could get away with a lot with a new young teacher fresh out of college, and to the point they drove you out of the profession. Maybe there are some tools and skills you could get to fix that issue?
Dust057 · 46-50
So should it be the same reward or consequence each time or is it the kind of thing like the time should fit the crime?


It could be consistent, or somewhat flexible. Just off the top of my head I thought it might be a good practice to start a timer during a tantrum and the subject knows that for every minute of a tantrum, they will later need to spend a minute in time out. or there could be a formula, like every 10 seconds of tantrum is a minute of time out. The consequence should not be a surprise, though, it should be established ahead of time and the subject knows about it. For example if I had a subject who had a temper tantrum with me for the first time in a group setting, the next day I might approach the class with a discussion.

"So yesterday, we had a little incident where one of our group got upset and started screaming and throwing things. I understand we get upset sometimes. We might not like the task we have to do, or there are lots of things in life that can happen that are upsetting, like our favorite toy getting broken or our best friend gets mad at us. I'd like to talk about this with everyone, because screaming at others is not appropriate behavior, and will have consequences in the future. First, I'd like to go around the room and we can share our ideas about something that upsets us, and what we can do when we are feeling frustrated or upset. I'll start. Something that upsets me is when my students are unhappy, because I care about them and want them to have the best possible learning experience. Something I can do when my students are upset is ask them to calmly tell me what is bothering them so I can understand and help. Okay, who wants to go next?"

Have a group discussion/sharing, then after:

"Okay, so next I want to talk about consequences for disruptive behavior. I've decided that if someone in our group participates in disruptive behavior like screaming at others, they will be asked to go into time out for 2 minutes. If they can control themselves and do that, we can talk about what upset them after the 2 minutes. If they refuse to go into time out and cannot control themselves, then I will start a timer, and for every 15 seconds or portion thereof they cannot control themselves, they will get an additional minute of time out. Even 1 second of 15 seconds counts. So for example, 1-15 seconds means one minute extra, 16-30 seconds means 2 minutes extra, and so on. Okay, so who can tell me how many extra minutes of time out you would earn if you had a tantrum lasting 44 seconds? (give a couple more examples/math quizzes)."

I do want to add that I am not a teacher, well other than unofficial impromptu stuff, and some experience coaching snowboarders and martial artists. These are just some ideas off the top of my head and you would obviously adjust to your own style, what works and what doesn't, talk to other teachers, do research on others who have dealt with the same issues, work within the parameters of your school policies and procedures, &c, &c.
Fifidog · 26-30, F
You are so helpful! Thank you! @Dust057
Dust057 · 46-50
My pleasure 😇 @Fifidog I how you find satisfying work that fits your dreams.
Convivial · 26-30, F
That's ok... Better to know this now then realise it 30 years on... It often takes a while to find your niche... But you will
Fifidog · 26-30, F
@Convivial how do I find my niche? How do I know what I will like?
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Fifidog you don't until you try... There's an old saying, if the only tool you own is a hammer then everything looks like a nail.

The more tools, the more options you have...
SnailTeeth · 36-40, M
The unions fuck everything up.
Fifidog · 26-30, F
@SnailTeeth how come?
SnailTeeth · 36-40, M
@Fifidog They're parasitic leeches who create an environment not conducive to growth, evolution, or positive change. They get a stranglehold on the finances, then the blue-collar well-spring becomes a trickle. They then defer blame to the mgmt, which conveniently removes them from scrutiny. They intentionally create hostility and toxic environments to enslave the weakest minds, and often target the most lucrative entry-level industries. Public trading only further adds to the stress.

I would rather work under the person going places. Not the person who got paid just for showing up. I feel there's more to learn from the former.

 
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