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Ravens have social abilities previously only seen in humans

Humans and their primate cousins are well known for their intelligence and social abilities. You hear them called bird-brained, but birds have demonstrated a great deal of intelligence in many tasks.

However, little is known about their social skills. A new study shows that ravens are socially savvier than we give them credit for. They are able to work out the social dynamics of other raven groups, something which only humans had shown the ability to do.

Bullying in the community

Jorg Massen and his colleagues of the University of Vienna wanted to find out more about about bird’s social skills, so they studied ravens, which live in social groups. In their study, published in Nature Communications, they looked at whether ravens were intelligent enough to understand relationships in their own social groups, as well as if they could figure out social groups that they had never been a part of.

Ravens within a community squabble over their ranking in the group, as higher ranked ravens have better access to food and other resources. Males always outrank females and confrontations mostly occur between members of the same sex.

These confrontations are initiated by high-ranking ravens, who square up to low-ranking birds and emit a specific call to assert their dominance. Normally, the lower-ranking, or submissive, raven typically makes a specific call to recognise the high-ranking raven’s social superiority. Through this process, the dominant raven ensures that its social position is maintained.

But sometimes, the lower-ranking bird does not respond in a submissive way to a dominance call – this is known as dominance reversal call. These situations often result in confrontations, and can result in changes in the social structure of raven communities.

Massen and his team kept a group of captive ravens and made recordings of conflicts. These included normal conflicts (in which the lower-ranking bird responded submissively to a dominance call) and dominance reversal conflicts. The same method was also used to capture the calls from a different group ravens that were housed separately.

Individual ravens were then taken from the group and isolated in a separate enclosure. The recordings of different calls were then played, mimicking a situation in nature where a raven overhears two other ravens in a confrontation.

Massen said: “We monitored their responses to these calls to see if they reacted differently to normal dominance calls and dominance reversals. We also used the recordings taken from the foreign group, to see if our ravens recognised the same behaviour in other communities.”

Relationship stress

When presented with a dominance reversal recording taken from their own group, ravens displayed behaviour associated with stress, because they expected a disturbance in the social order. This stress is typically expressed by the raven either running around or pecking at its own feathers.

Ravens showed even higher levels of stress when they were played a dominance reversal call from members of the same sex. This makes sense, because ranking disputes only occur between members of the same sex. A confrontation between two females, for example, would not have a big effect on the social status of a male raven – but would affect any females who were listening.

Female ravens in general were more stressed than males when they were played dominance reversal recordings. This may be because females are always lower ranked than males, so changes in community structure pose more risks to females at the bottom, which have reduced access to food in the first place.

https://theconversation.com/amp/ravens-have-social-abilities-previously-only-seen-in-humans-25833
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@CorvusBlackthorne Yep, he's not just suspended, he's gone. This is the first and last time I've run into him.

I meant that in conspiracy theory circles, when everyone is aware of the background for a particular claim, users tend to mention them without citation or support because their audience agrees with them. But then they forget when they're talking to a different audience that these claims come across as bat-guano crazy because we've never heard them before.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@LeopoldBloom Ah. That is true. I find it amusing to watch these people when confronted with the combination of factual evidence and disbelief most normal persons have. It is quite similar to a deer confronted by a pair of headlights.
@CorvusBlackthorne I don't think facts or evidence would work on that guy. He's clearly mentally ill.
SW-User
This makes me wonder if there are alien scientists messing with our society the way these researchers are messing with the ravens.

"When threats of nuclear war were circulated, humans showed high levels of stress response..."
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
There was something in the news about the octopus the other day. How they seem to be being artificially enhanced.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@Tastyfrzz I have heard of their intelligence, but did not know about that.
I think humanity will eventually discover animals arent as stupid as we think them to be.

Ravens mourn their dead. As do other species . I think they have souls.
But then , thats just me.😊
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@OogieBoogie I'm fully convinced that the Hindus have it right. Animals reincarnate just the same as humans do, and our souls are interchangeable.
@LordShadowfire i have a feeling we are all connected in some way. Dont know how, but there has to be a reason we have am afinity for them.
Carazaa · F
@LordShadowfire No we don't have the same souls silly 😏
Convivial · 26-30, F
We have a local bird that's been seen dropping snails on to roads to break the shells... What's unusual is that they do it on pedestrian crossings and wait for the traffic to stop before collection their meals
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@Convivial I am aware of birds who take nuts which are too hard for them to crack and lay them on the tarmac of an airport, then wait at a safe distance for an airplane to run them over.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@CorvusBlackthorne yep... Anything but stupid
Carazaa · F
Yes they are smart. I read many years ago they even remember human faces and can communicate that to offsprings supposedly.
SW-User
Doesn't this kind of apply more broadly to the entire Corvus genus?
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@SW-User Yes. However, the study focused only on ravens.

 
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