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Nostradamus V. Trumpasaurus

Remember Nostradamus? That prognosticator who enjoyed a period of celebrity in the 70s & 80s.. "He's Ba-ack"..😷
Nostradamus wrote: “The great shameless, audacious bawler. He will be elected governor of the army: The boldness of his contention. “The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.” In Century 1, 40, another prediction reads: “The false trumpet concealing madness will cause Byzantium to change its laws.” Finally, in Quatrain 50, Nostradamus writes "the Republic of the big city” will engage in costly military operations, ordered by the “trumpet”, which has led to fears of nuclear war.
Now I'm not personally a believer.. But the "Trumpet" reference gets a good run..
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@Azlotto Yeah, this is how he "saved" us the first time - by destroying 22 million jobs!!!

LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@Azlotto Save America from what? Those of us who actually love it?
Azlotto · M
@ElwoodBlues Is that all you got?
Azlotto · M
@LordShadowfire The southern border flood.
@Azlotto asks [quote]Is that all you got? [/quote] 22 million jobs lost and that's trivial to you?? You really need more?? How about 275,000 needless civilian deaths??

All through Trump's term, our Covid per capita death rate was DOUBLE that of countries like Canada & Germany, resulting in about 550,000 Covid deaths under Trump.

If Trump had handled Covid as well as, say, Justin Trudeau, we'd have had 275,000 FEWER DEATHS! Put another way, Trump's mis-management of Covid cost more deaths than THREE Viet Nam wars!! Three Viet Nams in a SINGLE YEAR, not spread out over ten years like the actual war!!!

Sure, Covid came from outside. And different leaders in different countries managed it differently. Trump's piss-poor Covid management is made clear by the relative per capita death rates.

[quote]"I look at it this way," Birx told CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta. "The first time, we have an excuse. There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge. All of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially."[/quote]

Azlotto · M
@ElwoodBlues Fake news. Give me another one, please.
@Azlotto Fake? Prove it.
Azlotto · M
@ElwoodBlues Seems all them people died from covid and not from the flu, gun shots,, natural causes, etc , Do you see where I'm going here?
@Azlotto Not a proof, just an ignorant question. And that excuse fails to explain the actual death numbers. It's a swing and a miss.


Here in the table are US death numbers for the top ten causes of death for six years ending in 2020. Notice how there are 20% more deaths in 2020 than the average of the previous five years? Doing the math, that's 500,000 excess deaths in 2020.

Notice how, in 2020, 345,000 of those 500,000 excess deaths are classified as Covid? Notice how almost all causes of death rose in 2020, including cancer & heart disease?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

If there's any validity to the claim that lots of deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? The evidence says mis-classification is a red herring.

LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@Azlotto [quote]Seems all them people died from covid and not from the flu, gun shots,, natural causes, etc , Do you see where I'm going here?[/quote]
Yeah, straight to the loony bin.
Azlotto · M
@ElwoodBlues hahaha, Nice one, but I'm still not convinced.
Azlotto · M
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Azlotto cult members rarely are.
@Azlotto Of course your eyes are shut and your mind is closed; that's a given. But you have no arguments against the data from thousands of city and county medical examiners across the country.

If there's any validity to the claim that lots of deaths have been mis-classified as Covid, why did almost all causes of death increase in 2020? Wouldn't mis-classification produce a reduction in those other causes? The evidence says mis-classification is a red herring.
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@ElwoodBlues But look at that big change from 2016 to 2017 when Trump reversed the Obama recession. Oh, wait, never mind.
@Azlotto The Senate tried to pass a bill funding border security, and Trump told the Republicans to block it because he doesn't want Biden to get credit for fixing the border.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@Azlotto [quote]Indeed[/quote]
I mean you. You need to change your PFP to something like this:
Azlotto · M
@LeopoldBloom Witch hunt
@Azlotto OK counselor, since you have evidence that your orange lord and savior is innocent, I'm sure you will provide it to his legal team.
Azlotto · M
@LeopoldBloom I have all the evidence they need.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@Azlotto Yes, show us.