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Is there any explanation as to why some people see demons/flames while on their deathbed?

Lately, I’ve been having terrible anxiety about Hell and have zero peace of mind, as I find conflicting answers everywhere. I’m talking about feeling scared and thinking about it from the time I wake up, to the time I go to bed and I haven’t been sleeping good at all because of it. I am not a Christian, but I have fallen down the rabbit hole of what they believe.

I have read some things about people on their deathbeds seeing demons, feeling fire and screaming things like "Please don’t let them take me!" And "It's so hot! The fire is so hot!" Until they die and this has left me terrified of death, to the point where I can't even focus on enjoying life.

These were just random comments on a video of a hospice nurse talking about deathbed visions that were positive. The hospice nurse was saying that she never saw people screaming about Hell, but people in the comments were talking about experiences that they've witnessed and that she was wrong to tell people that this never happens. These were actually under a Hospice Julie video.

Normally, I would think that people were having these experiences because they believe that they would. But I’ve read NDE stories and deathbed stories about people seeing things/beings that didn’t line up with their religion or beliefs at all, so it’s kinda hard to deny that Hell exists when there are stories and evidence like that out there and it brings me so much anxiety about death and what would even qualify as bad enough to go to Hell.

My brain just keeps telling me that things like spirits of loved ones giving messages through mediums or positive NDEs, or anything positive about the other side that isn’t Biblical, is all just deception/illusions from the enemy, because of what Christians say.. Is there any explanation as to why this happens besides it being their beliefs? Because There’s some evidence out there from what I’ve read and belief doesn’t always play a part in things like these..
greensnacks · 31-35, F
Believe whatever you want, but know that the brain is an insanely powerful thing and subconsciously does things you consciously don't want to deal with or would never wish upon yourself. Just like you produce saliva when thinking of sour lemon, subconsciously is 1047648393664% more powerful. It filters the world around you with the thoughts you have daily and after a while of repetitions, it manifests it. (because to it, it's only natural to be this way, bc you tell it to daily.it doesn't know to tell bad from good, as it's a tool) and unfortunately negative thoughts are more powerful that positive, because, evolutionary, they were the ones that saved us from dying (ex. omg lion, run, and there isn't a lion in the bush, but it mightve been a leopard, and ur ancestors survived)
Fears and unresolved issues play a role (may I add HUGE ROLE) in it. Mind limitations etc.

So, that being said, we live in a world inside our heads FIRST, then everything else. And most of the world In our heads is produced by external stimulus.

Now you can believe in Gods, astral planes, traveling, multiverses and all theories that there are about this weird and unusual plane we are on, but it's VERY possible people that see hell and whatnot on their deathbeds could be just subconscious fears they've seen thought their entire lives. Or actual physical body function (not all people pass the same way) and the brain only finds a suitable explanation to show you (much like you're dreaming of snow ig you're cold when sleeping).

My two cents.


And btw, you seem to have an obsessive personality of sorts where you feed your fears. I would suggest dropping the topic and moving onto something better and more positive, so you can get the quality of your life back.
Hellokitty212 · 31-35, F
@greensnacks I most certainly have obsessive anxiety and I can usually get over an obsession if I ignore it, but this topic feels so scary to just ignore.

I feel like I'm just looking away from what could be my future eternity.

I know worrying about it doesn't help at all, but I don't know how else to react to this.

And before anyone asks, no, I do not have religious trauma. I made the mistake of going down the Christian rabbit hole, all because I saw a video of a woman on TikTok, talking about how she was a former medium who turned Christian because she figured out that the spirits that communicate with us are demons/familiar spirits and they impersonate our loved ones to lead us astray from God/religion..
greensnacks · 31-35, F
@Hellokitty212 it's only your obsessive mind talking to you. Trying to access any possible dangers in the future and overly working.

But the thing is, even if that's the case, wouldn't you want to have a peaceful life while here? It's like worrying about dying. It's gonna happen, live while you can. Im sure you're a good person and don't actively hurt others. Don't hurt others, live a quality life and do good if you can. It's what's life is about.
And even if this God you fear so much is like that(which I don't wanna go to I whole religious talk, bc every religion speaks more or less the same because Its a social construct) he will see you had a good life and shouldn't care about if you went to church or not.

Instead of watching "mediums" that talk about that and then converting (people that are highly obsessive will go from obsessively following the occult to other religions fast because they're obsessive like that) I'd suggested learning first about anthropology, religion historicaly speaking,( how and why they were developed), (during hunter gathering tribes didn't need much law and order and their gods were closely tied to nature/pagans/ earth god, wind god etc) later on as we developed more complex societies, we needed law. There we see the emerging of more religions that are scary /he will punish you if you steal from my copious amounts of wheat and rice and ig you do this and that-mostly stuff the society considered bad).

And then learn about religions and hear scientists talk about it. I recently heard a really good sentence from Neil DeGrasse how he said people just make up Gods for what they can't explain, and that's fine. Before we couldn't explain fire, we had a god that made fire and thunder etc.

Just know yourself and know you're obsessive like that and deep dive into stuff that will work for you. Do the research on religions and learn more.
Don't believe people on tiktok or wherever only, learn from multiple sources, check, triple check and make your own conclusions
Good luck.
Greyjedi · M
They are raised in a way to believe there is nothing but evil in the world. After most of their lives have come and gone they have a terrifying outlook on the world and this mean they have a terrifying outlook on what might come next. For lay people, basically, if you are raised to believe in demons and hell and you do not dismiss it, that’s what you will because that’s the story you and your family said for your life. And if someone is Christian and devoted and see hell it is because they feel they weren’t good enough even being Christian. Since they have heard the story of hell so long their feelings of not doing or being enough mean they feel they are going to hell.

My spiritual teacher does not talk of hell but she occasionally speaks demons. “Demons are the negative aspects of our selves.” Unless we raise our vibrations reflect and become better beings demons will always be there, but we have the power to purify them. I have heard other spiritual teachers say hell is very real, eternal but not as scary as what religions say. Because, it is the very planet apon which we live. Earth is hell. We will always come come back to it. We live. We die. We spend some time in spirit school, then we are born to families on this planet Earth again. If like me your life has been very challenging, that’s pretty scary having to come back here over and over all the time. If we raise our vibration, reflect and more often than not choice kindness, sensitivity, compassion over their opposites will don’t have to come to comeback after we’ve died and we might just make Earth a heaven of sorts.

I have learned in recent years demonology rose Jews and Christians being bigoted against the the gods other religions. Now of course some gods deserved it, like Ancient Greece’s Zeus and exclusive war deities and some Aztec and Mayan gods. The typical shape of a classic Jewish/Christia demon comes from some odd looking Druinic deities. You know, tails and horns maybe wings. If, as our ancient ancestors believed, these things existed then in many ways it would have been the oldest form of racism. My point is demons were commonly made out of older gods and the gods of other religions to legitimize new reign. As for hell, what little I know about Mayan and ancient Egyptian mythology is that while hell was unpleasant it was also the path to heaven. If these dying people really did see something (unlikely) maybe it was an ugly god wishing to pay homage to a person’s life lived pretty well, and they will guide their soul past unpleasant “hell”.

What I have heard about out of body experience is that they reflect the beliefs, attitudes, wonders and worries of the people who have them. In short if you believe in hell, worry about hell thats where you are going. If you don’t worry about it you won’t go. If you want to experience “Hell” keep posting this kind of thing.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
They have guilt issues.

And Christianity pushes guilt to force compliance.
CestManan · 46-50, F
If heaven and hell do exist, we are not going to be given any evidence in this life.
No, they are kept hidden away until someone is de4d.

There are videos about this fear on youtube and such. Some people are trying to get over the fear of h3ll, it is sometimes called "deconstruction".

One thing about this channel I posted below - there are different videos about deconstructiong religion etc, but here is one video of hers about getting over "h3ll anxiety".
She is atheist, ex christian.

BTW, pardon the use of 3's and 4's in certain words, but with censorship so heavy on here, I am not sure what words cause a post to be hidden.

Anyways -

[media=https://youtu.be/HLXwKkBXEXw]
HikingMan · 51-55, M
Almost all anxiety comes from unhealed trauma in a person's childhood.
Anxiety is tricky though and manifests itself in forms the waking mind can worry about.

My guess is that there's something from your past that lives and breathes inside of your unconscious mind and your waking, conscious mind has manifested it into this fear of a hell that you don't really believe in.

I'm not a therapist, but in trying to get a grip on my anxieties and fears I have read a lot of books of the self help type and they all lean in the direction I'm pointing you in.

Be well
Live happy
Keep trying,
Rob
hunkalove · 61-69, M
According to the Tibetans, it is anger and hate that put you in a Hell Realm, actions that set you apart from others. If you think about my generation, the Baby Boomers, a lot of us died in WWII. Not all of us were innocent civilians. Some of us were German and Japanese and Italian soldiers who died protecting our country and families and friends and neighbors even if our leaders were wrong. And nothing is forever. Not even Heaven or Hell.
greensnacks · 31-35, F
@hunkalove my grandfather at his last moments saw some soldiers that were trying shoot him or something, he was afraid (he was a military person) after that his relatives came to pick him up.
Ynotisay · M
Hell is a human construct designed to control behavior through fear.
There is no hell. The supernatural is a myth.
And allowing yourself to feel stress and anxiety around it is totally unnecessary and detrimental.
So maybe you should ask yourself if you're on board with a religion that would be responsible for those kinds of feelings.
Good luck.
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
Hell is fiction
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
Hey, I'm sorry you're feeling this way. I felt the exact same thing for a good 3 months about 13 years ago. Couldn't even talk and didn't know how to put it in words. How long have you been feeling like this?
From what little ive heard from hospice nurses, every death is different.

But people, thr closer they get to death, become more and more their core personality.
This can be wonderful, but it can also be really awful.

Those that carry negative traits such as guilt, anger, revenge, selfishness, etc.... panic towards the end. Their reality all comes home to roost in their final moments.

So i wonder if what you saw relates to this🤔

Some people experience the complete opposite: white light, a gentle guiding spirit, they feel in awe and enveloped by limitless love.

Some people have died and had niether of these experiences. Some enter a realm of learning, or experience other dimensional beings and are guided back with a greater love for this life.

So its hard to say .


I suppose death is the most personal experience of all🤷‍♀
pride49 · 31-35, M
@OogieBoogie i wish for glorious reincarnation as a monster spider in a fantasy world. Since its what i want my subconsious sure as hell better fall in line 👿
pride49 · 31-35, M
I dream about running like hell through a train half submerged underwater to escape a nuclear blast 🤷🏼

 
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