9/11 and Donald Trump

@hunkalove Well, what can you say? Seems par for the course.

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On the Snopes Fact Check of Donald Trump's actual words they sum up:-

So it is true that during the course of that interview, in response to a query about whether his own buildings had sustained any damage, Trump stated, in reference to the Trump Building, that "now it's the tallest" [in downtown Manhattan]. Whether that remark constituted "bragging" is a matter of subjective interpretation, however.


(I read a really great book on 9/11, "The Only Plane in the Sky", which was an oral history of that day - deeply moving, and some great heroism shown by so many)

@LesDawsonsPiano If you saw the film of him saying it, he was smiling.

@hunkalove Certainly an insensitive thing to say given the circumstances.

@TrashCat No argument!

@TrashCat I still wonder if Donald Trump actually believes in his way of seeing things, or distorts/misinforms deliberately to whip up his supporters. Again, not really sure what would be worse.

@LesDawsonsPiano He believes in power and money at no costs.

@LordShadowfire @LesDawsonsPiano I agree to some extent with both of you. I believe the underlying factor is that as much as "trending" as become a driving societal force in our digital culture, people basically don't like change. A large segment of the population prefers the comfort of the life and values they grew up in, and resent having to cope with globalism, past inequities and injustices. Not so much in urban settings, particularly along the coasts, where populations have been denser, more diverse, and more reliant on international trade. Concommitment with that came the increasing importance of a college education for higher paying jobs, the reduction in manufacturing jobs, and the implosion of objective journalism through the explosion of broadcast and social media based more on opinion and entertainment that factual reporting. Hence you have a backlash against the educational systems and what little "mainstream media" remains for "teaching" about changes going on in the world; a resentment of appearing not to be heard; a yearning for the simpler days of when an Eisenhower or Reagan appeared to make things run in a simpler world. With no appreciation for the fact that in those days the parties only campaigned against each other for a few months before elections, then turned to finding common areas where they could compromise and work on pragmatic solutions to governing rather than 24/7 demonizing year around.

I believe all the things you both have mentioned are boiling in the cauldron, but the cauldron is a fear of change, imho. With little recognition that they may have unleashed far more change than they envisioned, and not all for the past comfort zone they sought.

@dancingtongue You may have hit some sort of paradox - a fear of change (or at least, wanting things the way they were) actually bringing forth unimaginable change - and not for the best.

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”

(Lines from "The Second Coming" W B Yeats)

@dancingtongue I completely forgot about fear of change. You're absolutely right. That's the underlying motive for these people, and so many misunderstandings occur because of that.