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Dan Barker's atheist speech

After seeing the John Lennox speech i clicked on the atheist rebuttal or response and it's a little more compelling to me, and i find it more of a relief if God doesn't exist, all that drama that requires therapy afterwards, all just a parable, wasn't actually so. But it's never and never should be all decided by one speech .... one needs to be willing to hear both sides and be serious about it, see it as a problem that humanity has been engaged in since time began almost, or since people were talking with each other. How it all relates to you personally, be more engaged, one fault i find with Dan is that he blames faith for not being what faith is clearly not, faith is what Kierkegaard described as a leap, you don't really know if your leap is gonna result in landing safely, or falling to your demise. But here it is, make of it as you will but no matter what your position is, take these things seriously, i mostly tell myself that, and develop an appreciation for different points of view, that is what this world needs nowadays more than ever, and stop being so attack oriented when you hear someone who thinks differently.


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compare the 2 by listening to Mr. Lennox

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..when two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.”
― Richard Dawkins
rob19 · M
@OriginalDumbMan
you also cannot prove non existence of god if you haven’t tried finding god
Do you believe in Odin? As you say, you cannot prove non existence of Him if you haven’t tried finding Him.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@BlueSkyKing [media=https://youtu.be/VWeF1iy16h8]
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@rob19 I don’t know but a formless super power and intelligence exists which can take any form. So odin can be real.
Adstar · 56-60, M
i find it more of a relief if God doesn't exist,

And here lies the foundation of so many people who embrace the ideology of Atheism.. The Desire for God not to exist.. If you do not want God to exist you will embrace any arguments for His non existence no matter how flimsy they are....
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Adstar it's the mechanism for the process of evolutionary change.

At heart it's all a triumvirate of sex, death, and changing environments.

Genes replicate, and the replications march backwards into an unpredictable environment
Adstar · 56-60, M
@jackieash Personally my eternal destiny with The LORD Jesus is not affected by your rejection of the LORD Jesus.. So in the eternal perspective your rejection of the LORD Jesus means very little to me.. Of course it is going to be extremely significant to you when you enter into eternity..

what anyone believes is none of your business.

WAIT What? 😳
You are the one coming into the ""BELIEF"S "" section commenting on MY response to JJarffff where i am sharing my beliefs... So you have just revealed yourself as a prime Hypocrite if you think people have got no business commenting on other peoples beliefs..

I know what you'll come back with and, to be honest, I couldn't give a shit.

But you still come into the beliefs section and give repeated comments and interjections on a subject you don't give a shite about.. Well done you are consistent in making most of your statements lies.. Lets see if your supposedly non caring ass will respond again..
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SW-User
God doesn't believe in atheists. The atheist does not exist, because ultimately every single person who claims to be an atheist right now will one day
bow the knee to Jesus Christ and call Him Lord. Philippians 2:10-11 says, "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." In the end, every single human being will know that Jesus Christ is God and will know the whole truth. They do not know this truth now because they are spiritually blinded by Satan. 2 Corinthians 4:4 says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." God does not believe in atheists because ultimately there is no such thing. Everyone will be a believer and know the truth in the end. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ today before it is too late! Now is the day of salvation.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SW-User If the Jesus character was still wiggling on the coss you might have case. But, since he isn't, it's all BS.
rob19 · M
@Diotrephes It's doubtful that Jesus character ever existed. The are no contemporary records of him.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@rob19 That event about the zombies visiting their buddies never made the local news either.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
Why is Lennon talking about science? He's not a scientist.
SW-User
@newjaninev2 I was under the impression that this was a Science themed organization, like in some British place like Oxford or Cambridge. They just had a pro and contra speech thingie.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SW-User Lennox isn't a scientist - despite the false impression he always projects.

His pontificating on matters scientific is hollow and duplicitous.
redredred · M
Lennox’s argument, such as it is, stands on two legs; something cannot come from nothing and the universe must be rational and subject to human reason.

Let’s consider the first of these. All of what there is can be divided into one of two quantities, “something” and “nothing”. From where else could “something” come from but from “nothing”?

The second leg is much simpler to deny. By what measure is human reason necessarily competent to understand the universe and bend it to our reason? My dog doesn’t understand the electrical systems my house yet it provides him with both light and heat. Human logic and reason is impressive; to other humans. It may well be a puny tool with which to understand the universe. Lennox’scmplaint may well be more due to our innate inability to see through what he sees as contradictions or illogical conclusions.

It should be noted that the human brain is, at least so far, incompetent to fully understand the human brain itself. Bronze age fables and immaterial sky-daddies seem like a cheap way out in arriving at answers to difficult questions or resolving great. Omplexity.
bookerdana · M
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@bookerdana We need

bookerdana · M
@SW-User Squeal..squeal🐖
rob19 · M
Looks like Adstar has blocked me. Christians just can't handle honest debate, they need everyone to agree with their delusions.

 
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