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robertsnj · 56-60, M
why are you a polytheist which gods do you believe in and why?
also no such thing as new atheist--we are all the same.
if you mean by
also no such thing as new atheist--we are all the same.
if you mean by
new atheist debate me bros
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robertsnj · 56-60, M
@ThomReidTheBlack it is your thread. also asking for evidence is not unreasonable nor it is a debate.
no evidence = nothing to debate.
why does asking for evidence trigger you ?
no evidence = nothing to debate.
why does asking for evidence trigger you ?
ThomReidTheBlack · 41-45, M
@robertsnj Really? Going to pull that nonsense?
I am not triggered by anything.
You are the one with the desperate need to convert others. The only difference between you and the Pat Robertson crowd is just what you feel compelled to convert others to.
I am not triggered by anything.
You are the one with the desperate need to convert others. The only difference between you and the Pat Robertson crowd is just what you feel compelled to convert others to.
ThomReidTheBlack · 41-45, M
@robertsnj And yes it is totally unreasonable to walk up to a random stranger and demand they provide evidence of their belief systems to you.
pride49 · 31-35, M
Id rather come up with my own hope for an afterlife than rely on others that are horrid. Well. I'm not religious really. Kind of an atheist? I don't know what I believe really. But for now relying on what reality is. And disregarding organized religion is what I'm doing now.
BohemianBabe · M
If you believe in something insane, you should expect to be able to defend it. If I was on here talking about how I believe in fairies, I'd be ready for some questions.
BlueSkyKing · M
Objective evidence would give credibility.
ThomReidTheBlack · 41-45, M
@BlueSkyKing I see you completely ignored what I said and actually proved my original point. People like you are desperate to prove you are right for whatever reason.
That is a you problem.
That is a you problem.
BlueSkyKing · M
@ThomReidTheBlack Yes, I like living in an evidence based world. I also can accept that some things can never have solutions. Belief for belief's sake goes against my basic adage.
ThomReidTheBlack · 41-45, M
@BlueSkyKing My spiritual beliefs are not based on blind faith in anything. They are based on many personal experiences. Some that defy the very understanding of the world from a purely scientific point of view. And I have worked in mental health so I have seen what real delusion and mental illness looks like... and I have seen things that are just different.
I have had personal experiences that forced me into either denying my entire perception of reality or accept that there is something going on greater than myself.
I am also a polytheist because monotheism is inherently irrational to me and also ironically in the case of Christianity straight up appropriated polytheistic Greek philosophical ideas and rammed them into their worldview.
My belief in some for of an afterlife is based on the idea that science tells us that all things in the universe including our consciousness cannot just vanish out of existence without violating the laws of physics. Everything that makes up all matter goes somewhere.
Some of my spiritual practices have resulted in repeatable results that can be documented. I can't just dismiss that to conform to what I learned in high school science class.
Unlike many Christians I see the creation myths of my faith as just that as myths but that doesn't mean that such tales cannot teach wisdom and do not have to be literal to have a powerful message.
But alot of this is hard to explain.
I have had personal experiences that forced me into either denying my entire perception of reality or accept that there is something going on greater than myself.
I am also a polytheist because monotheism is inherently irrational to me and also ironically in the case of Christianity straight up appropriated polytheistic Greek philosophical ideas and rammed them into their worldview.
My belief in some for of an afterlife is based on the idea that science tells us that all things in the universe including our consciousness cannot just vanish out of existence without violating the laws of physics. Everything that makes up all matter goes somewhere.
Some of my spiritual practices have resulted in repeatable results that can be documented. I can't just dismiss that to conform to what I learned in high school science class.
Unlike many Christians I see the creation myths of my faith as just that as myths but that doesn't mean that such tales cannot teach wisdom and do not have to be literal to have a powerful message.
But alot of this is hard to explain.
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ThomReidTheBlack · 41-45, M
@jshm2 Actually. polytheism in many respects I would argue is a far more logical position.
I find monotheists and hard atheists alike cannot argue their positions without resulting to faulty logic or outright fallacies.
I find monotheists and hard atheists alike cannot argue their positions without resulting to faulty logic or outright fallacies.