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You have to admit there is an intelligent force in this universe

And whatever this force is we see its footprint in everything that shows our intelligence in finding it. math shows it. Chemistry shows it and atomically it is seen. But there is definitely Some intelligence about our universe
He's called God.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace yes it comes from God
@Axeroberts God [b]is[/b] the force that created all things.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace exactly.
@Axeroberts [quote]You have to admit there is an intelligent force in this universe
[u]And whatever this force is[/u]
you can't say it's not intelligent design. but there is an intelligent part. and [u]way beyond what we know[/u] i [u]do not believe in that type of Creator[/u]
[/quote]

There it is. Plain as day. We DO know "what that force is". God told us in His Word, but you have shown above, that you still will not give God credit for it. That "force" CAME FROM THE POWER OF GOD and IS God. But you always dodge His name every time and instead replace it with what you think is "beyond what we know" and call it "intelligent design" instead of God. That is nowhere the same. It DOES make a difference. If you keep refusing to acknowledge God as rightful DESIGNER of the universe, He will deny He knows you, in heaven. His Word says so. You're playing a mighty dangerous game.
@Axeroberts it wasn't out of context at all.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace well you copy and pasted from various posts to make it look like it was one post. Anyway I know what I believe and I am happy with it
@Axeroberts and there's nothing wrong with that, yes I did because I was showing you the difference and contradictions in your thoughts, but I won't post about that again. 🤗
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Richard Tarnas, from "Cosmos and Psyche":-

......the modern mind engages the world within an explicit experiential structure of being a subject set apart from, and in some sense over against, an object. The modern world is full of objects, which the human subject confronts and acts upon from its unique position of conscious autonomy. By contrast, the primal mind engages the world more as a subject embedded in a world of subjects, with no absolute boundaries between or among them. In the primal perspective, the world is full of subjects. The primal world is saturated with subjectivity, interiority, intrinsic meanings and purposes.

Might not this (i.e the mode of the modern mind) be the final, most global anthropocentric delusion of all? For is it not an extraordinary act of human hubris - literally a hubris of cosmic proportions - to assume that the exclusive source of ALL MEANING AND PURPOSE IN THE UNIVERSE is ultimately centered in the human mind, which is therefore absolutely unique and special and in this sense superior to the entire cosmos? To assume that the universe utterly lacks.........what we human beings conspicuously possess? To assume that the part somehow radically differs from and transcends the whole?

(Emphasis is as per Tarnas)
DocSavage · M
It’s us
Such as it is.
DocSavage · M
@Axeroberts
Why not ? You seem to think a supernatural agent is clearly indicated. All I’m asking is what separates it from the norm.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@DocSavage i do not believe in that type of Creator but I am not even talking about that. Humans have sent probes all over the solar system and landed on other planets using these kinds of mathematical formulas. It's real. It take intelligence to discover it. therefore there is an intelligence about our universe.
DocSavage · M
@Axeroberts
And as I stated. That intelligence is us
Amor69Fati · 51-55, M
It's inside us as well 😌
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@Amor69Fati yes it's in everything.
“The most ethereal vision of the mystic is knowledge much as an amoeba may be said to know of a man.”
No there is not. The universe is just the rotting corpse of a God who killed himself.
No, I don’t.
No, chemistry doesn't show it. Neither do subatomic particles. But let's assume for a second that this intelligence does exist. Why would it create brain-eating amoebas? Is it bored?
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire lets stick to the topic. atomic bonds are real or nothing would exist. 🙄
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