Atheism is whack

@ArishMell Theists merely beg the question.

Their conclusion relies upon a proposition at the start, but they have not established a basis for that proposition.

Without establishing that intent is even possible, it becomes meaningless to ask for the motive behind that intent.

@ArishMell [quote]There are plenty of scientists who are also religious of any faith (not only Christianity) but I doubt anyone - religious, agnostic, atheist (SW is too shallowly binary there!); philosopher, professional cosmologist, interested lay person or barely knowing the basic nature of energy - can possibly answer "Why?"[/quote]
1. Precisely. I'm not one of those who claim God is proven. It's a belief I and many physicists (etc) have that is consistent with the evidence but goes beyond it. And I spend quite a bit of time listening to the current thought on these matters because I like to know.
2. Scientists, philosophers, religious/ agnostic/ atheists etc - do ask the question though. The idea of @newjaninev2 that we shouldn't ask, we shouldn't speculate beyond what science has proven is NOT science and is completely ignored by the great minds who do explore the question. The multiverse is another idea that explores some 'why' questions that is consistent with the evidence but itself goes beyond it.
3. The idea that we have completed sufficient science to conclude we don't have a basis for asking the question is nonsense.
I tend to not get into these conversations as I did for a decade in EP with all comers and found too many who can't consider a view that doesn't agree with them and quickly become dismissive and abusive - or simply cavil and can't follow an argument. It's a bit tiresome.

@Abstraction [quote]The idea of @newjaninev2[/quote]

When have I ever said any of that?

@newjaninev2 I agree. The second word in his opening "definition" is "belief"...no need for all these knee-deep arcane, intellectual observations. We atheists simply don't believe in god. No need to justify.

@LeopoldBloom That is crazy.

@TBIman Come to think of it, it is pretty crazy.

@canusernamebemyusername Doesn't sound legitimate to me, but if it sounds legitimate to you, that's okay with me.

@BlueSkyKing I do not believe in the bible for all of the reasons in Mark Twain's quote.

I am not religious at all.

@BlueSkyKing Dude I am NOT religious at all.

@TBIman
You’re just here to disagree with everything, and lie. You already said in your other post that there is no solar system, no planets . That earth is a flat plain , inside an enclosed geo-system. And that the sun and the moon are just weightless balls of light. If you don’t believe in god either, who put it all together? NASA ?
I would tell you to make up your mind, but I don’t believe you have one.
You might have some kind of sixth sense, because there is no evidence of the other five.

@newjaninev2 [quote]Yup, pretty versatile stuff![/quote]
"By mass, about 96 percent of our bodies are made of four key elements: oxygen (65 percent), carbon (18.5 percent), hydrogen (9.5 percent) and nitrogen (3.3 percent). These elements do not give color to fireworks, but they are found in our body’s most abundant and important molecules, including water, proteins and DNA."
https://biobeat.nigms.nih.gov/2015/07/elements-that-keep-us-alive-also-give-color-to-fireworks/#:~:text=By%20mass%2C%20about%2096%20percent,including%20water%2C%20proteins%20and%20DNA.

"Of the 118 elements on Earth, just 21 of them are found in the human body. Together, they make up the medley of divergent molecules that combine to form our DNA, cells, tissues, and organs."

"Four elements, namely, oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, and nitrogen, are considered the most essential elements found in our body."

[b][i]Notice that three of the four are gases. [/i][/b]

"Hydrogen, the most abundantly found chemical element in the universe, is present in all bodily fluids, allowing the toxins and waste to be transported and eliminated. With the help of hydrogen, joints in our body remain lubricated and able to perform their functions. Hydrogen is also said to have anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties, helping improve muscle function."
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-elemental-composition-of-the-human-body/

@Diotrephes and oxygen is the most generally corrosive element... it’s pretty nasty stuff, although I use it myself even though too much will kill you 😀

@newjaninev2 [quote]and oxygen is the most generally corrosive element... it’s pretty nasty stuff, although I use it myself even though too much will kill you[/quote]

We are just gas bags.

Isn't it simply amazing how "dead" atoms combine to create life forms that eat other dead atoms in order to live and that we are mostly composed of gases?

If you could find the switch that turns the furnace off and disable it, you could probably life forever.

A smart person should be able to make a good movie about that.

@checkoutanytime Where did i say it doesn't? I've not once said life comes from nothing..and i am an atheist.

@Entwistle athiests dont believe in anything at all, have a nice night Sir.

@checkoutanytime [quote]to an atheist, its always been their is nothing to believe in[/quote]

“I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be.”
[i](Isaac Asimov)[/i]

@Elessar [quote]The real question is, why are y'all are so butth*rt at people rejecting your fairy tales?[/quote]

It's all because of a lifetime of constant brainwashing and threats.

@redredred Yes, I know, but a belief in a god is purely that and separate from studying physical reality.

Natural objects and events happen anyway, whether or not the individual observer believes in a deity driving it all. I forget his name but one of Britain's leading cosmologists is also a lay Methodist preacher: science asks How, religion asks By Whom. Neither ask Why: that is impossible for either to answer.

Also, I was careful to say not just the Abrahamic religions: science is international and has to reach over all cultures and religions.

@ArishMell belief in god is a silly superstition regardless of the source of the myth.

@redredred Well, I am not religious, but I am not so dismissive of religion because that attitude misses the vital, fundamental nature of probably all religions known, extant or extinct, or surmised from archaeological evidence.

@redredred I believe that you are incorrect. How does something come from nothing? I believe that everything comes from something. I have no idea what that something is, but if I had to bet I would say that everything on our Earth was created by some sort of higher power. Including you.

@TBIman reality can easily be divided in two; something and nothing. It’s easy to see how something could become nothing. The reverse is certainly conceivable, that everything came from nothing.

I see no need, conceptually to invoke a so-called higher power, it just begs the question of where that higher power came from.

@TBIman
Every time you post your opinion, you contradict your self. Everything comes from something. Most people usually say god is the exception, he comes from nothing , with super powers. Why ?

@badminton Any explanation as to the origin of "god" can simply be applied to the universe instead, thus cutting out the middleman.

@Sharon [media=https://youtu.be/TnlPtaPxXfc]

@TBIman Then if there was absolutely nothing something came from nothing.

@Entwistle Quantum foam and strings are close to being nothing.

@Diotrephes Agreed.

@DeWayfarer Thanks for the feedback.

@Rickg I agree totally. All religions are a means of control.

@Entwistle Please explain.

@TBIman Its self explanatory.
My guitar exists..my pink elephant doesn't exist. The pink elephant is a no thing.