I Think Indoctrinating Children With Religion Is Child Abuse

It's not supposed to be about the control. That's how people twist it. I don't believe in spanking, or saying "God will punish you" and I think many assumptions are made on both parts. So... Its supposed to be about a love so true, so committed, you feel reverence inside. God is fearsome, and awesome, and holy, and to be holy we are asked to know him personally. He believes we're worth it. God is love, love, love. Faith, hope, and love. Especially love. If you want to know about this stuff, there are resources.

I'm glad your children are safe in a loving home, @suzie1960. I've never thought being an athiest meant you didn't raise your children with love, intention and spirited learning. I thought that was based on being a decent person, and a loving parent. I'm glad you are that. 🤗 Those lil angels are our future. @suzie1960

@KayraJordyn I'm not really concerned with what you think christianity is supposed to be, I'm more concerned with what it actually is.

I was a christian when I was younger but since breaking away from it I've been able to see how it adversely affects people. It's difficult to see that when you're part of it. Like you, I thought it was all about love but I was wrong, it's really all about control. I hope, one day, you'll see that too but, if you're happy living in that environment, that's fine.

Susie, I think you're well intended. Still, you don't know my story, and I would never presume to know yours. I could never imagine it, and you could never know mine without knowing me. Any discussion is welcome.

So you won't acknowledge what I asked, and meant. Awesome.

@KayraJordyn I'm not sure what you really meant.
Your sarcasm belittles You!

@KayraJordyn [quote]This is gross, dramatic, wrong, and ridiculous. [/quote]
I don't know about the US but here in the UK I've found christians try to force their beliefs onto others, often using threats, intimidation and even violence to do so.

@fazer1k Xtians only support freedom of speech and religion for themselves.

@rob19 If SW is anything to go by that does often seem to be the case.

@KayraJordyn I am not quite sure what you consider is 'icky', but the truth is often unpalatable, if you don't like it?

I am acutely aware that lumping an entire faith, the most prominent faith on the globe, together, into the trash bin of beings who so obviously "knowingly, intentionally, intent on money-grubbing, indoctrinating, lying, scheming, being dangerous self-promoters, and people who cause death and misery" is icky. Not even almost accurate.

Cults have this effect, often.

Not every faith runs like a cult. Some even promote love and hope. Healing.

Weird, huh?

I don't know what you're so angry about, but I hope you find out and feel relief soon. @uknaked

With faith and hope,

Kayra

@KayraJordyn You have my sympathy for having been brainwashed into your "faith", I was not referring to any one organised religious grouping, I was referring to every organised religious group on earth.
I am not angry, I am realistic. The vast majority of deadly conflicts, in the world we live in, are a result of conflicts of religious indoctrination. My complaint is about the complete lack of activity, by religious leaders, to correct and stop creating this religious conflict.
They should be teaching the fact that we all share one planet, and the religions are of a similar base, and doing what they can to stop religious fundamentalism, instead they stand by and make platitudes of little effect.
I am fully aware that for millions of believers, religious belief helps them in their lives, but my complaint is about the religious leaders who are more interested in protecting their empires and doctrines, than protecting innocent people.
I trust that this makes my position clearer.

@ChairmanofthePool Is it rational to risk being denied entry to Valhalla or Fólkvangr or Sto'vo'kor or any of the many other realms of the dead for worshiping the wrong god?

@suzie1960 Ultimately everyone is going to a hell for not believing in someone's god/gods, lol

@Quizzical Good point.

@fazer1k And now he's wearing a suit and combs his hair to look more intelligent. I blocked his Truman account ages ago, but now he's back with another. Maybe he got banned, but you know what, he's not done making a fool of himself.

@SW-User I'm not sure we're talking about the same person. The one I'm referring to doesn't appear to have changed his profile picture.

@suzie1960 Ah okay, no worries. Both sound equally miserable. I'm sure if they fine each other they will be best buddies.